So creating a new repo on GitHub, you get a set of getting started steps. They changed the default branchname to “main” from “master” due to its connotations with slavery.
When I create a new repo now, the initial getting started steps recommend creating a branch named “master” as opposed to “main” as it was a while ago.
It’s especially weird since the line git branch -M master is completely unnecessary, since git init still sets you up with a “master” branch.
Disclaimer: I have a bunch of private repos, and my default branchnames are pretty much all “master”.
Is this a recent change?
Edit: Mystery solved, my default branchname is “master”. Thanks bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone !
Thanks! It sure makes me want to have a civil discussion with someone who belittles my opinion and reduces it by calling it a “rant”.
I’ll extend you the same courtesy as you have me.
Not if you’re doing it right. sad shitty devs hack together pipelines that require constant maintenance. I’ve got pipelines that have worked flawlessly for over 7 years yet other projects I don’t own are constantly running into problems deploying because their pipelines were “configured for last release”.
Wrong again. Pipelines do the thing they are supposed to do and do it extremely well. are you sure you know what you’re talking about?
yeah fuck me for creating a pipeline for each of my environments that have dedicated branches. fuck me for setting a standard and adhering to that standard.
if you need to switch your branch on your pipeline regularly you’re not following proper branching strategies.
you may be right, but the same could be said for literally any comparative opinion.
lmao nothing you’ve said has anything to do with “Main is more concise and less problematic”. Just because you created more work for yourself by having 70+ pipelines that need to be rewritten for a branch name change doesn’t mean it’s less concise or more problematic. It means you messed up by not having a pipeline capable of such a basic feature – generalized targets with a separation of concerns. Standards change, requirements change, so do build pipelines. Being stubborn is not a reason against changing colloquial terms out of respect and growth in understanding.
When’s the time you changed branch names after creation? Master to main is the only time for a lot of devs
colloquial terms? these are terms that describe technical standards that have likely been around longer than you’ve been alive.
Imagine if your doctor one day said you have rectumbabados instead of colorectal cancer because the word “cancer” is too triggering.
that’s the problem with young inexperienced devs these days. they just don’t get it. standards aren’t meant to change. standards are meant to adapt and evolve. forcing a frivolous name change on a branching strategy all for corporate to check their “social responsibility” checkbox is not evolving. it’s not adapting. it’s corporate grandstanding and literally is meaningless. like Target saying they support LGBTQ+ and then yanking all DEI support.
I maintain enterprise solutions. I hold myself to a higher standard than you might and have proven my worth through consistent delivery. my builds take minutes. my deployments take minutes. my counterparts take an hour or more to build and deploy. if I were to do whatever the fuck you’re doing I would be out of a job.
get some real experience before you go hotdogging with that tiny wiener you call expertise.
Again, you’re conflating your own stubbornness with correctness and that just ain’t how it goes. Branch names are frivolous. So much so that changing the strategy or retargeting a branch one time shouldn’t be such a nightmare for your pipelines that you have to pretend like you’re the big dick on campus spouting accomplishments when someone mildly suggests there’s a mistake in your thinking. Look inward if you’re so upset by this that you have to make up irrelevant insults in a vague attempt to protect your own ego, then go fix your pipelines to make it easier to do for the next person after you’re gone.
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The posts you are replying to ha e been deleted. I’m really currious what they said because we have one vendor who claims to be/is locked into usung “master”. This either requires us to write CI that merges main -> master and mirrors master back to main or use master. This can confuse junior devs once or twice, but it is really not an issue. The ONLY time I felt compelled to use master because of this vendor was when working with a group using GitLab. GitLab has a feature called Pull Mirroring that is MUCH more reliable than a pull/mirror action in GitHub that does the same thing, but to use that the branch names had to be the same.
I see both sides of this argument. The master/slave relationship in tech is NOT like masterworks or mastering a craft. It is based on one “owning” the other, but I don’t think that allowing technology to work that way is violating its rights. Obviously changing the name doesn’t change the behavior and isn’t it really only when that behavior is applied to people that we have a problem with it?
I never fully supported the effort required to change, but I’ve also never written anything in a way it would be difficult to change. I recognize that it could be considered a micro aggression, but it’s not like we are going to stop ants or bees from treating other classes as forced labor. Slavery exists. It is bad when applied to people. It accurately describes tech. Changing the name of the master db or branch did NOT free the slaves.
Wait, this is a thread about branch names in git. The “master” in question would be more akin to a “master recording” from music, not master/slave software or system architecture.
While it may be true that the master branch is more akin to a master record, not everyone knows the nuance and quite frankly it doesn’t matter, if it makes people uncomfortable then it shouldn’t be a problem to accommodate a simple change, most of the tech world has already done so. Computers used to have a literal slave/master relationship with hardware components and control systems and we moved past that just fine despite still having controllers and actors everywhere.
It was someone ranting about the many hours and days of lost productivity and cost of manually switching over 70+ legacy build pipelines all because of a branch name change. Also lots of condescending and insulting language from someone who thought their stubbornness and “standards” meant they were better than everyone else. Honestly I just probably set them off in my first message and they wouldn’t let it go, leading to increased levels of ranting and insults from them attempting to spout accomplishments while detailing their failings in the same breath. Admittedly that above description is a bit belittling from my end, I’m just annoyed they couldn’t keep their messages up for all to see.
I still stand by the opinion that changing branch strategies, names, or targets should not be a multi-hour multi-resource process and if it is, that’s a failure of the systems engineers / ops who put together such a plan. It’s possible to have CI/CD pipelines that run for years on end attached to critical infrastructure while being flexible enough for such simple config changes and maintained by one engineer.