• Franklin@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    For people who are so against transgender folk they sure do like to take advantage of gender affirming care.

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    25 days ago

    LGB is the most ridiculous thing I’ve seen.

    I’m not THAT young (born in the 90s) and even I’ve never ever seen LGB as an initialism without the T.

    • Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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      25 days ago

      UK here, we have the LGB alliance, no surprises that it’s a bunch of bigots. Transphobia is our chief export after all.

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        25 days ago

        that’s terf island, no surprises there. the US is now trying to beat you at it though. it’s almost guaranteed the laws will be worse and it’s going to be more misogynistic general as well. transphobia is an extension of misogyny.

    • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
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      25 days ago

      Born in the 70s here. I do remember LGB without the T in the 1990s and early 2000s, you probably were too young to pick up on the term. In any case, trans rights came into the spotlight much later than LGB rights.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      This sort of thing is exactly why I say “queer” instead of using initials. Because you can keep adding more initials all day and you’re still going to be leaving people out that should be counted and you can take initials away like those people never counted to begin with. And it’s very easy for cishet people to ignore any of those letters individually and still act like they’re an ally.

      “Queer” may have negative roots, but it seems to be generally accepted as an inoffensive term today and, I think, more reflective of sexuality as a spectrum. I wouldn’t mind a better word to use without those negative roots, but I just can’t think of one.

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        25 days ago

        This does seem rather practical as a catch-all term. LGBTQ+ is much too cumbersome

        I’ve already heard a bunch of queer people around the internet use “queer”, so I guess it just needs more adoption

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          24 days ago

          Queer is so much easier to say and is becoming safer to use without someone assuming you’re using it negatively.

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      26 days ago

      I’m surprised they haven’t.

      It’s a weird one, probably this is because I always try to see the bright side but I have mixed feelings. On one hand writing off just trans and queer people feels even more targeted and evil than deleting all letters.

      But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.

      Now we have to keep pushing to get “TQ” similarly unerasable. 💪

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          25 days ago

          It would have been even easier to remove this page altogether, wouldn’t it?

          I’m not disagreeing with you at all, but I think my point is being completely missed here. My point is not about what Trump has done which is unequivocally bad.

          My point is about what we’ve achieved so far. We’ve made enough progress that to combat the “woke virus” they’re having to target first trans people specifically rather than directly removing mentions to LGBTQ+. I’m hopeful about the fact that we’ve achieved so much so far - obviously not about the fact that we’re being persecuted.

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            The only reason they did not remove the rest of the page is because there is still broader support for gay people.

            They are planning to make trans both a mental illness and a sex crime. Separating the T out here is a step towards making that distinction.

            It will be a longer and harder journey to do the same for lesbian, gay and bisexual people, but they will once the project is done. But you go after easier targets first to build momentum.

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        But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.

        Because the Nazis stopped at just Jews, right? Surely they never expanded upon that to encompass all “undesirables”, right?

        Oh, wait.

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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        But on the plus side, the fact that LGB haven’t been removed makes me feel slightly hopeful? This is a clear step back obviously. But it makes me feel that finally the idea that gay, lesbian, bisexual people exist and don’t need conversion therapy has actually sunk in and we can’t be erased so easily.

        No, that’s completely wrong. They’re coming after trans people because trans people are the easiest target right now. They also intend to get rid of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people, but it’s easier to focus on one group at a time and attempt to split people apart.

        They did the same shit in the UK with the “LGB Alliance,” mostly straight TERFs collaborating with the Heritage Foundation and doing absolutely nothing to advance the rights of the people they claimed to be supporting, focusing entirely on attacking trans people to the point of making alliances with extreme reactionaries and anti-feminists.

        Anyone using the “LGB” acronym is either a reactionary using divide and conquer tactics or a useful idiot to said reactionaries. There is no plus side here.

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      Doubt it. The LGB part of the equation aren’t hard for the average Joe to empathize with, they honestly would have skyrocketed in terms of acceptance years ago without the T group. The first 3 letters are just who you’re attracted to, the last letter is who you are and that’s a much bigger deal to a lot of people.

      • hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Except, at least to my knowledge, there’s nowhere in the Bible that says mentions gender, but a couple of parts where it’s pretty explicit about acceptable sexuality.

        Doesn’t really matter though as these people can’t read to begin with.

      • Syl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1. Human Sexuality: We affirm God’s biblical design for marriage and family between one biological man and one biological woman, which has proven to be the foundation for all great nations in Western Civilization. We oppose homosexual marriage, regardless of state of origin. We urge the Texas Legislature to pass religious liberty protections for individuals, businesses, and government officials who believe marriage is between one man and one woman. We oppose the granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for sexual behavior or identity, regardless of state of origin. We oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose non-traditional sexual behavior out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values.
        1. Definition of Marriage and Family: We support the definition of marriage as a God-ordained, legal, and moral covenant only between one biological man and one biological woman. Further, we support a traditional definition of family with only one biological man in the role of father and one biological woman in the role of mother. We are opposed to same-sex parenting, intentionally subjecting a child to the loss of their biological father or mother, and other non-traditional definitions of family
        1. Homosexuality: Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice. We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin, and we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values. No one should be granted special legal status based on their LGBTQ+ identification.

        from the official 2024 Texas GOP platform: https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/2024-RPT-Platform.pdf

      • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        25 days ago

        they honestly would have skyrocketed in terms of acceptance years ago without the T group

        I’m gonna be honest, this seems like baseless speculation. At least by my flawed recollection, cis people barely thought about trans people at all over ten years ago. It’s taken a very well financed and concerted effort by the right to stir up as much hatred as they’ve managed to to this point.

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    Reminder that the “LGB Alliance” in the UK literally worked with the Heritage Foundation and described it as “the only possible course of action.” It was an op with most of the supporters being straight transphobes trying to sow division. This move has the Heritage Foundation written all over it, they love that tactic, divide and conquer.

    • hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I made the unfortunate “choice” (ie suffering from a mental breakdown from repressing it) to come out the week before the election. It was less than ideal. But also, fuck these people, I’m not going back to fucking hiding so some rich shitstain can pretend he cares about anything other than greed.

  • Jessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Every step they take to erase us, I come this much closer to cutting out the people in my life that support him, regardless of his hateful policy. It tears me up inside, because I love them dearly. But eventually something will give, and I won’t hold my tongue any longer.

    That’s enough internet for me for today. But who am I kidding? I’ll be back to doom-scroll further. They are winning. They’ve been winning ever since that fuck ran for office.

    • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      It wouldn’t be productive, but I’ve been thinking of texting some things at my mom. She hasn’t been hostler to me since I came out, but also not accepting with misgendering and dead naming.

      I know she voted for him before, and I’m pretty sure she did this time. With the way things are going I will probably never see her again. I want her to know why.

      • YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world
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        I know you didn’t ask for feedback but if you want another person’s perspective, I’ve cut them all out (trump supporters and bigots), and the people who remain that I feel are still worth trying to maintain or improve the relationship I have been doing what I can to show them the reality of the situation and expose them to the suffering of others that they are shielded from by privilege.

        If it were me being misgendered and dead named and otherwise being treated with disrespect by a parent who voted for my erasure, I would also be thinking about cutting them off and telling them how harmful they have been through their behavior and asking how they live with themselves when they’re enabling and even cheering on the violation of human rights of so many people in their own country. I would explain how they have hurt me and the problems they have caused or enabled or failed to protect me from. And if I had the energy/capacity for it I would maybe send some links showing the damage 45 has been doing in such a short period of time if I thought it was worth the time, in particular ways he is hurting people that look like that parent or have similar life circumstances, since they don’t seem to care about people who don’t.

        Whatever you end up doing I wish you luck and good outcomes, and safety and peace at home and otherwise. I’m sorry you have such a shitty parent and I can relate in some ways and definitely feel you. You’re not alone 💚

  • WiseWoodchuck@lemmy.world
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    Remember article 5 of NATO, an attack on a member is an attack on all members! We must show support for the trans and gender nonbinary communities while we organize with the hope of flipping the legislature in the midterms two years from now.

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      Speaking of NATO, when do they, I dunno, wanna get involved in removing an obvious bad actor? Actors? I don’t see anyone else bothering, or even coming close to being able to.

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      This is a divide and conquer tactic, trying to turn lesbians into TERFs and gays into whatever the gay man equivalent of that is (TERG?). Don’t let it work.

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      an attack on a member is an attack on all members!

      Yes!

      organize with the hope of flipping the legislature in the midterms two years from now.

      Jfc, no…

      What the fuck more will it take for people to understand that you can’t vote fascism away!!!

      • Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Lemmy is for some reason overcome with peak electoralism brainrot and thinks that instead of being the barest fucking minimum of effort, voting is actually the peak of political praxis. Frankly, it’s bizarre.

        • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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          Since you can’t say guillotines, or the law would persecute Lemmy itself. If it happens, it won’t be televised, that’s for sure.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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            There’s no law against saying things like, “we should all get together on courthouse squares across the country for collective action next weekend” that would persecute Lemmy. But people are no longer interested in collective action, it seems.

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              It’s hard to take action if you’re just one MAGA shithead with a gun (or oversized truck) away from either death or life-destroying debt. Even worse, your police force is badly trained and known to be full of shit. Civil disobedience blocking roads or doing similar, peaceful options come with an immediate threat to life and limb. And picking up a gun yourself to potentially defend yourself against the state is whole other caliber of action, you’re basically forced into an insurrection.

              Without these fears I’m sure there would be more action. I’ve just witnessed my city of Hamburg, Germany, basically blocking the whole center with up to 80.000 people as a reaction to the so-called “christian democrats” and neolibs working together with the AfD nazis in Berlin (who failed). Because the only thing we have to fear are crazy truck drivers and another nazi regime. Hell, we can even blockade streets without previous permission without the police getting out guns or batons (they will use ‘pain compliance holds’ though; not everything is perfect).

              I really hope that, after this deep dark nightmare you’re descending into, you’ll get better and go above and beyond with democracy and FAIR economics, learning from your past mistakes and enshrining safeguards into a newly reformed constitution. Like Germany did.

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        Republicans control all three branches of government. There is not a chance they will give any of that up voluntarily. And people still think elections will be in any way fair and free.

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        Yes. Please don’t vote. Send the dems a message! It’ll surely make everything better

        Trump vote with a MAJORITY of votes this time.

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    I honestly cannot believe they left the B. Not because bisexuality isnt valid. Just because it seems like exactly the kind of thing Trump’s team would say is fake news.

    He probably doesnt know what it stands for.

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    “About 70 countries still consider consensual same-sex relations a crime. That list is growing by one more country, hopefully in the next months. Please stay tuned to our new and exciting developments regarding your collective and the hate we profess to it!!”

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      donno, i mean it could mean transformers, i’ve seen the movies, the trilogy, they are great and have big guns.