Anonymous: Trump is making America weaker and we’ll exploit it. The international hacker community is preparing to strike against U.S. infrastructure and calls for public awareness against incoming fascism
Anything supposedly said by “Anonymous” as a hacker group should always be treated with immense skepticism.
There do exist somewhat legitimate sub-factions that actually take serious actions and do serious ops, and also semi-legitimate “outlets” for their statements… but there’s also an overwhelming amount of smokescreen bullshit “anon news outlets” and little script kiddies running around. It’s important/intentional that those continue existing as smoke screen for the more “serious” factions.
Beyond that, being an anonymous group with no real methods of confirming membership to outsiders (insiders can just check if you’re in the private IRCs and etc) it means that just about anyone and everyone can make some big declaration like this. The proof will be in the results, not some announcement that could be made by a rando.
No matter who is really making these threats/warnings, I think things are going to get pretty dire in the US government IT space. It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security, and now you have a bunch of young adult tech-bros with no true accountability running roughshod over all of it. Then there’s the fact that more than one of them have “serious black hat hacker” backgrounds.
Going to be one wild ride.
I guess its pointless to believe their words since there is no way to know if its them. Just look at what they actually do and judge based on that.
little script kiddies running around
Yeah, they’re running around the Treasury Dept right now.
It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security
Having worked with government agencies and a lot of large private organizations the thing that keeps them mostly secure is the amount of red tape involved with things. Patching a production system requires a teleconference with at least five different people and no one person knows everything.
The idiots without any security experience coming in to “streamline” things will just make the systems even more fragile and insecure.
Known and vetted systems are always the most secure. Until RSA is broken, and then they’ll need to update to a quantum resilient standard. Which we’ve had in the wild for 6 years already and the NIST has officially approved for 2 years.
We’re still at least a decade away from a machine with enough qbits to do it. So i feel like we should be fine.
It’s the fucking Credit Bureaus, Telecoms, and Energy Companies I worry about. They keep fucking up.
Anyone who complies with the NIST standards is in a good place.
The problem is that a lot of places are not in compliance with NIST standards.
I know, I’ve helped patch them.
Yep, but we’ve got at least a decade to do it, and when new systems are stood up they “should” be in compliance.
Based on my experience if we say it needs done in a decade it will never be done.
See also: All the unemployment systems running on FORTRAN
FORTRAN could be said to be security through obscurity though /s
It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs
I’ve seen Muni and Regional gov and also dotcoms.
The Govs I’ve been at were crazy-tight about security. They were unionized and could decide based on conscience vs costs. Dotcoms, though, followed a different trending, one that really focused on costs.
I don’t know about government overall, but the military and HHS have has some of the most stringent security stances I’ve encountered. To the point where just working for them was a massive chore. (How effective they were I guess I don’t know, but working for them sucked.)
That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.
That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.
I mean, it’s not a secret that governments everywhere run really outdated software (think things like Windows 7 and older) because “it works”, so it really shouldn’t be too surprising.
I once answered a phone call inside a com closet on base. Military IT was already escorting me. Security came because the cameras in the closet detected the camera on my phone. It’s definitely physically tight security.
Often, ridiculous and onerous procedural security is hiding massively incompetent actual software security or is used to constrain people from discovering security by obscurity holes. Everything I’ve done in government interfacing as a vendor would seem to confirm this, at least back when I was doing it a few years ago. You’d be hard pressed to convince me it’s changed much since.
I had to help the SSA implement SAML authentication once and they weren’t even allowed to share their screen so I could see what they were doing. Totally agree that it’s a massive chore.
Yeah. I’ve only spent a few moments skimming through the linked article but if you were part of a legitimate hacktivism group planning a significant operation why would you publish this statement ?
It’s really just spooky hyperbole - as though written by an adolescent that want’s to sound scary and powerful.
I would absolutely love to see hacktivists cause some chaos, and maybe even some real financial harm.
The whole point is to being attention to the rise of fascism. Hacking without releasing a statement like this is just terrorism. Releasing a statement after hacking can make it easier for the govt to cover up, like “no we weren’t hacked, someone in our server room just accidentally tripped over a power cable”
Lol this is hilarious. I don’t know which “anonymous” they spoke to, but it definitely wasn’t the actual subversionist hackers that know how to do shit.
hack the planet
Do it, attack America’s life points directly.
No, my Blue Eyes White Aryan!
Exploit it you say? Please get in line behind the russians, the chinese snd pretty much all arab countries
Yes, that’s how exploiting works in those videos.
What makes you think Anonymous isn’t filled with the russians, chinese, and pretty much all arab countries?
If it’s not card carrying white republicans hacking America, we’re going to have a problem with it.
Don’t forget the billionaires too.
What did we do? As if our governments aren’t US vassals? Yet you still demonize us. If Arab governments had any sway our governments wouldn’t be paying tributes and forced to normalize with Israel and host US troops.
The only foreign country that controls US politics and bought US politicians from both major parties is Israel. https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
Next time a blonde haired blue eyed British man named Lawrence comes asking you to rebel against the Ottomans you’ll think twice, huh
There were legitimate grievances, but most Arabs did not rebel against the Ottomans. In fact many more died fighting for it. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2004/1/14/the-forgotten-arabs-of-gallipoli
The Saudis did not give the Jared billions for nothing. Just remember, the Saudis and Israelis told Bush to invade Iraq and next up is Iran with Putin’s Sock Puppet in charge. It will be a massive cluster fuck.
Leaders in the region fear that the US will turn their countries into another Iraq so they pay up. Don’t confuse tributes for bribes.
Saudi Arabia opposed the invasion of Iraq. It was Netanyahu that went to congress and sold the war to them.
Saudi Arabia’s Steadfast Opposition to the Invasion of Iraq
https://www.washingtonpost.com/made-by-history/2023/03/17/iraq-saudi-arabia-saddam-hussein/
Crap, I should have typed the 1st Gulf War and Bush Sr. You are correct about the 2nd invasion, the Saudis did not want Iraq fractured and the Shite’s gaining power through Iran.
In the first Gulf War it was out of necessity. Iraqi troops invaded Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khafji
Even today, other than wealth, Saudi Arabia is a much smaller country than Iraq with half its population -Saudi Arabia’s population figures are inflated since over 40% are foreigners-. In 1991 Iraq was much stronger, and much more self sufficient, it could have taken Saudi Arabia in days if it weren’t for the coalition forces.
-Saudi Arabia’s population figures are inflated since over 40% are foreigners-.
That’s not inflated, they’re still part of the population…
Maybe they don’t count temporary residents like students and foreign worker permit holders?
Also can they likely can’t be drafted / join their army?
You say that as if Iran hasn’t been financing uprisings, Turkey isn’t openly affectionate with multiple opposing world powers, and as if Afghanistan didn’t fall into chaos literally as the USA were leaving.
Iran, for one example, is a prolific cybersecurity adversary of the USA. One of the top four advesaries alongside China, North Korea and Russia. In fact, Iran is believed to be responsible for disclosing a CIA covert channel to China which led to a critical dismantling of CIA assets. I don’t know as much about other Arab states because Iran is most famous for its advanced cyber-warfare capabilities, but honestly, to avoid exploiting the USA would be very foolish.
Obviously this goes both ways. Israel and the USA are infamous for Stuxnet, a computer virus which reportedly destroyed a fifth of Iran’s nuclear centrifuges in the early 2000s.
I just want to confirm that you know that Iranians are not Arabs. Linguistically they are closer to Europeans and Indians.
Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Egypt have been caught spying on the US (or US citizens) from what I know
Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Egypt have been caught spying on the US (or US citizens) from what I know
Dude, America has spied on even its allies. The bar is pretty low, here.
Saudi Arabia is allegedly spying on Saudis abroad including in the US. Specifically government critics on social media. Saudi Arabia allegedly spied on its citizens in the US through a network flaw
This is bad and probably violates US laws. But it wasn’t targeting the US or US citizens. Meanwhile, Israel is targeting the US and US citizens: Israel Has Long Spied on U.S., Say Officials
Anonymous is going to attack the American people’s infrastructure?
No, they are going to talk a bunch then so nothing. It’s their whole thing.
If they actually gave a shit about spreading awareness, they’d find a way to get that video on Fox News, OANN, etc
V for vendetta shit
Don’t need to open Twitter to watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI27LEimfYg
I’m also remembering an IT crowd scene where they argue about which of them is in Anonymous, and I can’t find it now. Does anyone have a link handy? Unless I am misremembering
I don’t know if this is the point you’re making, but IIRC, they are a disorganized group, so anybody can claim to be part of them.
Yea I think that was the joke in that scene, but I can’t seem to find a clip of it
Gotcha, I honestly didn’t watch the video, so the joke is now on me.
…unless you’re pretending not to know, and you really are in… IT
It was the very final episode. Sort of a special. That wrapped up the series. Sometimes referred to as season 5. The name of the episode is the internet is coming.
Will it be like when they launched a load of DDoS attacks against Sony, of which the only impact was annoying regular people and doing nothing to the company they were supposedly going after?
You prob complain about protesters disrupting regular people too
“Bloody Just Stop Oil protesters blocking the road, preventing me to go to work just so they can spread the message that we’re all going to die! I HAVE A MORTGAGE!”
They have always been techno-punks: anti-establishment and more style than substance. That being said, if nothing else, they were able to shine a light on shitty people and that’s more than most folks do.
I wish they were getting into organizations and dumping gigs of documents detailing illegal and anti-consumer/citizen activities, but money and law enforcement really goes after anything with an actually impact that might affect wealth. No one actually gives a shit about a website being down. (Excepting like… Amazon or Google and good fucking luck with that.)
So it’s like a flaming bag of shit left on a porch. They take care of it and shout “you damn punks!” But if you burn the barn down, every cop in the county will be interrogating everyone they can find until you are caught.
TBH it seems like the Furry community are more effective than Anonymous ever will be.
Thats because anonymous as people actually think about existed for a few years and all the people that did big shit left or turned fed and since then it has been mostly people using the name to get recognition.
Anonymous, if you are going to do it, PLEASE make sure to leave the innocent people alone and go after the rich assholes that are doing this.
Other than that, here’s my axe, go wild
Here is my 4 laptops, loaded up loic, give me ip, we roll
slow loris was a lot better that loic… i heard…
full name of loris?
Go vandalize Tom Tillis’ website. That’ll be your first test.
No one is innocent here.
Hit the Government of Putin where it hurts.
I will believe it when I see it this is likely just talk.
It’ll take 40 years to fix the damage he’ll do in 4.
I don’t think 4 years of accelerated climate damage is gonna be fixed in 40 years…
That assumes that we have a party interested in fixing anything.
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho will be interested.
At least he found the smartest person on the planet and immediately put him in charge.
Ikr. Doing that with the richest man instead does not seem to have the same effect.
Can they do something useful like destroy the debt infrastructure and delete all student loans and medical bills?
I’m sure backups and redundancies are “inefficient” since “everything is in the cloud, anyway”.
A more useful thing would be to do as much damage to Twitter as possible. In fact, why they haven’t attacked Twitter while Musk has been disarming all of its safety protocols is fucking beyond me.
Attacking twitter would be more useful than deleting all debt? I mean go wild, take that shit ass site down but if you had a “delete twitter” button and a “delete all debt” button, mashing the second one would make you the greatest hero who ever lived.
Debt is monitored/store by many different companies
Even if you took down all data of x health insurance company it would still exist in other places
So I would say that it poses a bigger challenge and you would have to do it at roughly the same time
Sure. Yeah its very hypothetical and silly. As if the Banks that manage national and international money supplies, since most of their managed assets are debt, haven’t thought of it? So no such button exists, whereas there might be a delete twitter button somewhere or one could be rigged up 👀
You’re right, What if they publish cheat codes for all Steam games, thus freeing humanity from corporate exploitation???!!!
Is such a utopia possible?
If enough freedom fighters have the guts to post enough memes, there’s no limit to what we can achieve.
Spoiler
You’ve been watching too much Mr. Robot.
Tap for spoiler
Or fight club
Anonymous tends to not do useful things. They just talk a lot.
mostly they are spending hours scrolling through social media accounts of certain types of people looking for dox materials. that’s really about it
“Anonymous” isn’t like a formal group. The entire point is that anyone can say that they are anonymous. So yeah, people talk a lot. You can do whatever you like as anonymous.
yeah ddos a website with your low orbit ion canons. that’ll teach them for sure. q0wned. thank you
