• otp@sh.itjust.works
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    22 days ago

    From a linguistic perspective, this is why I am impressed by (or at least, astonished by) LLMs!

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    22 days ago

    There is an alternative reality out there where LLMs were never marketed as AI and were marketed as random generator.

    In that world, tech savvy people would embrace this tech instead of having to constantly educate people that it is in fact not intelligence.

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      21 days ago

      That was this reality. Very briefly. Remember AI Dungeon and the other clones that were popular prior to the mass ml marketing campaigns of the last 2 years?

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    22 days ago

    This is a bad example… If I ask a friend "is strawberry spelled with one or two r’s"they would think I’m asking about the last part of the word.

    The question seems to be specifically made to trip up LLMs. I’ve never heard anyone ask how many of a certain letter is in a word. I’ve heard people ask how you spell a word and if it’s with one or two of a specific letter though.

    If you think of LLMs as something with actual intelligence you’re going to be very unimpressed… It’s just a model to predict the next word.

    • renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net
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      22 days ago

      If you think of LLMs as something with actual intelligence you’re going to be very unimpressed… It’s just a model to predict the next word.

      This is exactly the problem, though. They don’t have “intelligence” or any actual reasoning, yet they are constantly being used in situations that require reasoning.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        22 days ago

        Maybe if you focus on pro- or anti-AI sources, but if you talk to actual professionals or hobbyists solving actual problems, you’ll see very different applications. If you go into it looking for problems, you’ll find them, likewise if you go into it for use cases, you’ll find them.

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          21 days ago

          Personally I have yet to find a use case. Every single time I try to use an LLM for a task (even ones they are supposedly good at), I find the results so lacking that I spend more time fixing its mistakes than I would have just doing it myself.

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            21 days ago

            So youve never used it as a starting point to learn about a new topic? You’ve never used it to look up a song when you can only remember a small section of lyrics? What about when you want to code a block of code that is simple but monotonous to code yourself? Or to suggest plans for how to create simple sturctures/inventions?

            Anything with a verifyable answer that youd ask on a forum can generally be answered by an llm, because theyre largely trained on forums and theres a decent section the training data included someone asking the question you are currently asking.

            Hell, ask chatgpt what use cases it would recommend for itself, im sure itll have something interesting.

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        21 days ago

        What situations are you thinking of that requires reasoning?

        I’ve used LLMs to create software i needed but couldn’t find online.

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          21 days ago

          Creating software is a great example, actually. Coding absolutely requires reasoning. I’ve tried using code-focused LLMs to write blocks of code, or even some basic YAML files, but the output is often unusable.

          It rarely makes syntax errors, but it will do things like reference libraries that haven’t been imported or hallucinate functions that don’t exist. It also constantly misunderstands the assignment and creates something that technically works but doesn’t accomplish the intended task.

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      22 days ago

      If you think of LLMs as something with actual intelligence you’re going to be very unimpressed

      Artificial sugar is still sugar.

      Artificial intelligence implies there is intelligence in some shape or form.

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        Thats because it wasnt originally called AI. It was called an LLM. Techbros trying to sell it and articles wanting to fan the flames started called it AI and eventually it became common dialect. No one in the field seriously calls it AI, they generally save that terms to refer to general AI or at least narrow ai. Of which an llm is neither.

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        22 days ago

        Something that pretends or looks like intelligence, but actually isn’t at all is a perfectly valid interpretation of the word artificial - fake intelligence.

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        22 days ago

        Artificial sugar is still sugar.

        Because it contains sucrose, fructose or glucose? Because it metabolises the same and matches the glycemic index of sugar?

        Because those are all wrong. What’s your criteria?

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          21 days ago

          In this example a sugar is something that is sweet.

          Another example is artificial flavours still being a flavour.

          Or like artificial light being in fact light.

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      22 days ago

      Still, it’s kinda insane how two years ago we didn’t imagine we would be instructing programs like “be helpful but avoid sensitive topics”.

      That was definitely a big step in AI.

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    22 days ago

    A guy is driving around the back woods of Montana and he sees a sign in front of a broken down shanty-style house: ‘Talking Dog For Sale.’

    He rings the bell and the owner appears and tells him the dog is in the backyard.

    The guy goes into the backyard and sees a nice looking Labrador Retriever sitting there.

    “You talk?” he asks.

    “Yep” the Lab replies.

    After the guy recovers from the shock of hearing a dog talk, he says, “So, what’s your story?”

    The Lab looks up and says, “Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA. In no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders, because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping, I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years running… but the jetting around really tired me out, and I knew I wasn’t getting any younger so I decided to settle down. I signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover security, wandering near suspicious characters and listening in. I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded a batch of medals. I got married, had a mess of puppies, and now I’m just retired.”

    The guy is amazed. He goes back in and asks the owner what he wants for the dog.

    “Ten dollars” the guy says.

    “Ten dollars? This dog is amazing! Why on Earth are you selling him so cheap?”

    “Because he’s a liar. He’s never been out of the yard.”

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    22 days ago

    I’ve already had more than one conversation where people quote AI as if it were a source, like quoting google as a source. When I showed them how it can sometimes lie and explain it’s not a primary source for anything I just get that blank stare like I have two heads.

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    22 days ago

    I can already see it…

    Ad: CAN YOU SOLVE THIS IMPOSSIBLE RIDDLE THAT AI CAN’T SOLVE?!

    With OP’s image. And then it will have the following once you solve it: “congratz, send us your personal details and you’ll be added to the hall of fame at CERN Headquarters”

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    20 days ago

    You asked a stupid question and got a stupid response, seems fine to me.

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    22 days ago

    It’s like someone who has no formal education but has a high level of confidence and eavesdrops on a lot of random conversations.

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    20 days ago

    Works fine for me in o3-mini-high:

    Counting letters in “strawberry”

    Alright, I’m checking: the word “strawberry” is spelled S T R A W B E R R Y. Let me count the letters: S (1), T (2), R (3), A (4), W (5), B (6), E (7), R (8), R (9), Y (10). There are three R’s: in positions 3, 8, and 9. So, the answer is 3. Even if we ignore case, the count still holds. Therefore, there are 3 r’s in “strawberry.”

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    20 days ago

    What would have been different about this if it had impressed you? It answered the literal question and also the question the user was actually trying to ask.

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    20 days ago

    How many strawberries could a strawberry bury if a strawberry could bury strawberries 🍓

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    21 days ago

    I’ve been avoiding this question up until now, but here goes:

    Hey Siri …

    • how many r’s in strawberry? 0
    • how many letter r’s in the word strawberry? 10
    • count the letters in strawberry. How many are r’s? ChatGPT ……2