• mrmule@lemmy.world
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    I’m currently in France, this is what I see on Google maps Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

    What a f*cking joke 😂

    Maps.me shows the real name

    As does mappy.cz

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      15 days ago

      I’m in Canada, and Google maps shows me the same as what you are seeing.

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    And you’ll see Amerida right at the bottom of the picture, that’s the capital of Floricatan in the country of America… Have you guys noticed how our country’s name is not America? I would be a fucking retard if I named something “of America” when my country’s name isn’t America. As an example, all Mexican coins say “estados unidos mexicanos” or something like that. But the country is Mexico. Mexico is in America, but they don’t say “mexico of America”, because they are not fucking retarded.

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    Cancun Texas! Have you guys been? Its beautiful! Just a short flight across the golf of America and located in southflorida…Flucatan.

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    Interesting discussion about this on the OpenStreetMap forums.

    The resolution is alternative name tags, referencing “en_us”, because “en” is not just the U.S.:

    https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/11

    So when OsmAnd or OrganicMaps start to support them, maybe your locale settings will change the displayed name there as well.

    Current description of that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190/history/80

  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com
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    16 days ago

    Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.

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      I use Google maps mostly to find out where things are, and unfortunately OSM does not have as many places as Google Maps. I can add one or two places I notice are missing (even though the phone interface isn’t that easy) but Google Maps consistently has better information, so I mostly use organic maps for when I already know the address or already know the location is in its database.

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      I just tried it and found three dealbreakers instantly.

      1. It doesn’t have my address (I know I could add it but who knows what else it’s missing)

      2. It couldn’t find any public transport routes in my area

      3. There is no satellite view

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      15 days ago

      I’m all for swapping apps, but Organic Maps doesn’t even have my home address. And I live in a major metropolitan area.

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          That solves the problem this time, but it doesn’t help if I’m trying to navigate somewhere new.

          If it doesn’t have the address for a 30-year-old house in a major metropolitan area, then I just don’t think it’s a viable replacement for Google Maps, unfortunately.

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            Every time I try to navigate to an address that’s missing in OSM, I just navigate to the nearest one instead. It’s not a big deal.
            And when I have 5 minutes of free time, I add the address.

            That’s how OSM works. There isn’t a dev or company to blame, you can literally fix the missing data yourself. And that’s the only way it works.

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            I wish OSM had the resources to make something akin to Pokemon Go but instead of capturing something, it adds it to the database.

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                Thanks, I was following this thread and wanted to say the same thing

                I’ve kept updating shops that change, new houses, parking, etc… it’s great. I even used it on vacation (when the SO wasn’t looking)

                My global rank is #1554 and ~#130ish in my local country, but #12 in another country I barely visit, so it shows where more people should complain less support more.

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                  Wow good work, my global ranking is #2449.

                  Ha, yeah it’s good that you slowly clear out your local area because my SO did not appreciate me trying to answer questions while we walked.

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                Found this thing yesterday. I’ve contributed to OSM more in a day than in the previous year. It’s great.

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    16 days ago

    UNITED STATES OF NORTH MEXICO
    I’m gonna start creating new pubs, bars and so on, everywhere I go, and call them Trump’s Mexican Deli, Donnie & Elon’s vacancy hotel, and so on. Please contribute (use an alternative google account)

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    Using google maps from Australia it’s labelled like “Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)”

    I think the Australian government should call it “gulf of not Australia” and see if google adds another title.

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    Well. O. K. Then it’s my not the 'USA" that did this anymore. It’s to be called “North Mexico” now. Fair’s fair.

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    Cool.

    In not at all related news disabling Google maps on your Android device can often be a source of delight! I never knew how capable organic maps was and it has a very nice auto integration.

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    Also, report an error to google maps:

    It reads: I read “Gulf of America”. That must be a mistake.

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      Obviously that’s not going to make one iota of difference. They’re an American company and they have been ordered by the president of the country to do this. They already do similar things in other authoritarian countries like China and Turkey, because anything else would risk the safety of Google employees.

      If you don’t like it, change to a non-American product and/or vote for a different president.

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        The American president can only order so much. As of yesterday, the BGN has changed the name, but this affects Federal Government usage. Google as a private company could continue to use the common name if they wanted to.

        This is why Open Street Maps has a “name” field and “official name” field, for where these two aren’t the same. This is already the case for the English names “Saigon” and “Ho Chi Minh City” which refer to the same place in Vietnam.

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          Well, that’s apparently for the courts to decide. In the meantime they have an executive order to contend with. Google has reclassified the U.S. as a “sensitive country” along with other authoritarian regimes and I’m convinced that this is partly out of concern for the safety of Google employees. Who knows what maga cultists might do if they don’t comply.

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            Personally I think that obeying in advance only makes it a riskier place for the employees, but it is not my decision to make.

            Regardless, I don’t see what issue the courts would have with a private company using the common name of a geographical feature instead of the official government name. That would be a violation of the 1st amendment protection of free speech from government intervention.

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        I somehow have a feeling that being president of the USA does not mean you can do whatever you want and people have to follow… Google Map, for one, is a product of a private company, not a Federal Service of the USA - so if they want to call it “Gulf of Google”, they could!
        Then you’re right, they already protect/black out places and some places’ names, however the Gulf of America, like the Channel of Washington are just bs that in the worst case scenario will live 4 years. So it’s a joke and I like joking too

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    I don’t honestly see a big issue with this. First of all: It’s called Gulf of America, not Gulf of USA. Considering it’s a gulf between south and north American continents it’s actually a more fitting name and in no way excludes Mexico.

    And secondly, you can just move on with your life and keep calling it the Gulf of Mexico and everyone will perfectly understand what you mean. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and telling you to adopt the new name. Same applies to Twitter and Facebook too for example.

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      The “big issue” with this it that it is being done entirely to appease the vain whims of an egocentric wannabe dictator, and for no other reason.

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      +1. Couldn’t care less. My life will go on. I’m not going to use GMaps anyway.

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      Changing facts to suit a nationalist and fascist state, purely for jingoism, is appeasement.

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        This doesn’t really have anything to do with facts, though. Names of people, objects and places change all the time.

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          Yes, based on nationalist reasons, to chnage facts to suit governments.

          This is no different to google kowtowing to China’s imagined borders.

          The fact is the worls knows this is the Gulf of Mexico. Not whatever Trump imagines it to be callled. Denali is still Denali, as well.

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        Organic Maps has fewer features and settings, a more stripped-down user interface, and concentrates on what most people use the most (find an address, navigate to it).
        It is also much, much faster than OsmAnd.
        Personally, I find OsmAnd too slow and clunky, and Organic Maps a bit too basic.
        But I prefer Organic Maps 95% of the time.

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        Also a great choice. I prefer organic maps for a variety of reasons (like ability to contribute to the maps), but a lot of people prefer OsmAnd. They are both very good.

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        OsmAnd is the Swiss army knife of Open Street Map frontends, but as I’m sure you’ll agree on (if you’ve used it), it can be a bit of a headache setting it up, as well as getting familiar with it.

        Organic Maps caters more to people seeking a pure alternative to Google/Apple Maps. It’s the layman’s alternative.

        If you’re a poweruser, and already familiar with OsmAnd, there’s no point in switching. But in terms of getting other, non tech savvy, people to switch, it’s a great recommendation!

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        You might be interested in Magic Earth it is also built on OpenStreetMap but includes crowdsourced traffic data. If you are in a big city then it’s likely they have good data for your area.

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    Next president, assuming there is one, will just change it back to repair relations with our allies.

    Even if it never gets changed back, it’ll be a generation before people actually start calling it that. No one alive now is going to give a fuck about the Gulf of America or call it that.

    Hey conservatives, not that you’re intelligent enough to figure out how to get on Lemmy, but if by some miracle one of you reads this, why is Trump doing this and floating invading our allies and annexing their territories instead of lowering the price of groceries as promised on day 1?