I think for me it’s alien: covenant. I was really interested in the ideas explored in prometheus and covenant just expanded on them. I don’t get much into the details of why it is or isn’t a good movie.

Luckily, though, HBO ran raised by wolves which really delved into ideals about AI and planet seeding etc. So that itch got way scratched even if the run was cut short.

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    not really sure how people view it (or even how i’d view it now nearly 30 years on) but i liked that weird Final Fantasy: Spirits Within movie when it came out. haven’t seen it since it was in theatres though so not sure what i’d think of it now; i just thought it was neat at the time (and age of 10)

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        That’s one where I really think they missed the mark compared to the book. I thought the book was really well done, and had a great premise. Idk the movie just left a sour taste in my mouth. I highly recommend reading/listening to the book

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          I saw somewhere on reddit recently calling the book worse than the movie. I liked the book only because I got to envision my version of all the nostalgic iconography. I’m not sure why reddit was hating.

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          I’m glad that you enjoyed it, but listening to the audiobook was one of the most aggravating reading experiences I’ve had. There were cool bits, but every chapter or two my eyes would glaze over for a minute as Wil Wheaton read off a list of things from the 80’s for a paragraph or two, interrupting whatever flow the book had going on at the time to cram ‘memberberries down my throat. I prefer the movie because I can look at the ‘memberberry references without them interrupting the other cool bits.

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        I like the movie where the person go into the computer :)

        Even Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace?

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        Lol, I really like premise too. It can be done better, tho.

        That’s why I support all sorts of sci-fi that is complete garbage. I want the genre to thrive and if we stop showing up Hollywood stops giving money.

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      It’s a work of art.

      A simple tropey story to hang some amazing visual and aural art off.

      I watch it often.

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      I’ve watched it when I was younger a couple of times but for me personally it was just a movie I watched amd the idea of rewatching it feels boring to me

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      Watched it not long ago. Didn’t realize the people rating it have no appreciation for decent movies.

      It wasn’t phenomenal by any means but it was quite entertaining for the duration of it.

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      I still think League of Extraordinary Gentlemen got unfairly dragged. 16% on Rotten Tomatoes.

      It is a pretty mediocre movie overall, but it is just a lot of fun and I have watched it a dozen times.

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      Surprised it hasn’t come back as a streaming channel series of films like “Knives Out”. It’s got a lot of potential.

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      I remember screening league of extraordinary gentleman and all I could think is it was probably not for me. Not to say someone else wouldn’t like it. I feel like not everything should be rated based on its wide spread appeal.

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      I don’t disagree that it’s a terrible movie, it’s just a terrible movie that I happened to really like.

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      League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

      pretty sure I watched it in the theater while it was new and I didn’t think it was a waste of time but it is forgettable. It’s only really remarkable thing is being Sean Connery’s last movie

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      16% on Rotten Tomatoes.

      That crictic rating though, that’s a useless measure. And 44% audience score isn’t that bad.

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        Ebert’s big beef with it was “You can’t drive a car in Venice!” and I’m like “You’re OK with 1800s nuclear submarines, an immortal vampire victim, an invisible man, and a dude who can’t be hurt because his painting takes the damage for him, but driving a car in Venice is a bridge too far?”

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    Bladerunner 2049.

    I know a lot of people disliked it compared to the first one, even Ridley Scott himself. But I love the direction Denis Villeneuve took this film in.

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      Did people dislike it compared to the first one? It’s got an 88% on rotten tomatoes, and anyone I’ve talked with about the films prefers the second one.

      I agree with you, by the way, I just don’t think that’s the unpopular take (Ridley’s opinion is meaningless at this point).

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      Ridley Scott is famous for his shit opinions. When he released The Last Duel in the middle of COVID, he complained that “them kids can’t even get off their phone for 2 hours to enjoy art” as thr primary reason it wasn’t making money.

    • One of the few sequels that did credit to the original. Like the original Alien trilogy, it’s best if you consider them movies in the same universe but different genres. Like, Aliens (I) was a suspense; II was a sci-fi action; III was a horror thriller.

      Maybe the Blade Runners weren’t so very different in genre, but yeah - good sequel, and in its way faithful to the original.

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    Kung Pow: Enter the Fist. Yes it’s utterly ridiculous. I don’t care, it’s still a masterpiece of absurdity to me. That 13% on RT is a shame.

    Also how has it been 23 years since its release.

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    Sucker Punch. Objectively, it’s not really that great of a movie. But it’s one of the most fun movies I’ve ever seen. It’s got over-the-top action sequences, an amazing soundtrack, and a genuinely unique idea for a story that I haven’t really seen done before.

    The final cut ended up removing a very key scene that ties a lot of the story together, which I honestly feel is part of why the movie was so poorly-received, because the theatrical release just doesn’t make sense and ends abruptly. If you decide to watch it, try to find a version that has the deleted scene with the High Roller near the end. It’s a full five minutes of dialogue that ties the entire story together and Warner Brothers scrapped it and it drives me so crazy. It’s like an “I Am Legend’s deleted ending” level of directorial blunder, IMO.

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    Jupiter Ascending is, in my opinion, a masterpiece. Bees can sense royalty? Fantastic. The bureaucracy android having to bribe his way through the system he was literally created to navigate? Marvelous. Don’t even get me started on the air roller skates. Eddie Redmayne’s four million year old teenager was perfection too. Two volume levels: harsh whisper or screaming.

    It was marketed as some kind of amazing epic, so people approached it wrong I think. It was a Wachowski film. What were they expecting? I went in there assuming it’d be like their Speed Racer movie, but in space. I was not disappointed.

    Second vote would be for Speed Racer, lol.

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      My biggest issue with that movie was the complete lack of chemistry between Mila Kunis and that beefy guy who was her love interest. I found that painful to watch.

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      I saw this years ago in a sci fi double feature at this big old cinema in my city, had Interstellar followed by Jupiter Ascending. I loved it, this very serious dry high concept hard sci fi followed by fuckin rocket boots!

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      “Ninjas? More like ‘Non-Jas’. Shame what passes for a Ninja these days…”

      And with that, John Goodman became my favorite, ever. :)

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    Last action hero. I think the people don’t understand that the film does it all on purpose.

    It is a love letter to action movies while acknowledging that those are stupid.

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      I don’t know how people couldn’t understand it was poking fun at all the ‘80s action heroes, especially Schwarzenegger himself. It’s a fun movie.

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      One could argue it is a demonstrative of every 80’s action movie trope, then going straight into the 90’s tropes list, and it does so with a smile.

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      It’s a fantastic movie that was just a bit late for the spoof movies of the late 70s/80s and too soon for the torrent of them in the 2000s.

      ‘I am the famous comedian Arnold Braunschweiger’ is not only something I say to my wife without context but also makes me laugh uproariously.

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      Had one gag that made me literally LOL… intentionally…

      They’re trapped in a library, debating the morality of burning books in the fireplace to stay alive.

      “How about all these tax books, can we burn these?”

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        Also:

        “Is there a chance that it will run…” grabs a bottle “…on this?”

        “Are you mad? That’s a twelve years old scotch!” reveals cups

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    Well it’s not a shit rating but I do think A Knight’s Tale is way better than its mediocre scores. Perfect comfort movie.

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      ‘but it’s not historically accurate!’

      Y’get to see heath ledger in armor win the girl, bust heads, and have a grand time doing it! All to a solid soundtrack.

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        The lack of historical accuracy also isn’t due to a lack of research, but a deliberate style and tone choice, as demonstrated at the very beginning of the movie when the trumpeters play We Will Rock You and the crowd claps and stomps along.

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          Tell me about it. Anybody who saw the first few minutes of the film and still expected the rest to be historicaly accurate should probably get tested for autism. The director made it clear from the very start that A Knight’s Tale is satire.

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          Really, cool. I’ll have to watch it one of these days, if it ever comes up on streaming

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    Super Mario Bros (1993)

    It was objectively a trainwreck but it was awesome when you were 8 and It brought video games to the big screen for the first time. I will always love it.

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    Tron Legacy

    Guyver: Dark Hero

    Strange Days (get the ultimate extended edition fan edit if you can.)

    Wild Wild West

    Demolition Man

    Judge Dredd

    Highlander II

    Jacob Barlow vs the Demonic Toys

    There are a lot of fun movies that are considered garbage.

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      Judge Dredd was quite good even though Stallone took the helmet off a bunch. IIRC he was willing to do the whole thing in helmet, but I bet the money guys needed to see his face.

      Never thought I’d see the Angel Family on film, that was wild!

      Bonus: The actor playing psychotic cannibal Pa Angel would go on to be the kindly farmer Herschel on Walking Dead.

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          Oh, he definitely did, but I think the Stallone version better captured the absolute bonkers feeling of the comics.

          I just hope the next time someone tackles it we get the Dark Judges storyline, but that might be too expensive to pull off outside full animation.

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        Damn, never made that connection about herschel. I like Stallones dredd just because it’s so quotable.

        Eat recycled food. It’s good for the environment and okay for you.

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      Highlander two? Man, you do you, but that’s an acquired taste. I’d have a hard time picking to place it above or below Rise of Skywalker.

      If you enjoy so bad it’s good: In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale.

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      Liking Highlander II is so far out of my worldview that I didn’t realise it was an option. What was it you enjoyed about the film?

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        Keep in mind i am not at all going to claim it is… Good. or logical… or any of that, but it had the almighty BALLS to go big with being WEIRD.

    • Wait… Stallone Dredd, or Urban Dredd? Because the Stallone one was awful and a crime against the source material, while the second should have had an immediate sequel.

      League I can’t even put into the “so bad it’s good” category, as much as I’d like to. I think I can’t forgive them for wasting such a cast and such a source on the result.

      I hated Legacy, but entirely for reasons having to do with loyalty to the original; it isn’t faithful to the original vision, IMO. That aside, I can grant it was better than it was received.

      🤝 on Strange Days. Fantastic soundtrack, too. Did it get bad reviews? I thought it did reasonably well.

      Same for WWW - didn’t it do well? I thought it was brilliantly irreverent of history. Fun times. Same for Demolition Man!

      Highlander II, though… No. Just no. A running joke with a couple of my friends is that they insist we all saw it together in the theater, but I insist I’ve never seen it. They say it was so bad that I just blacked out my memory to avoid the emotional trauma of having seen it. Honestly though, I have no memory of the film yet a deep revulsion at the idea of watching it.

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        Stallone Dreadd.

        I am in complete agreement with everything you said about it being a crime against 2000 AD Dreadd, yet if one can excize rob schnider from it? It’s popcorn. I’ve asked a few fan editors to have a crack at it because for me it has the same issue as Constantine. It is its own thing I can both appreciate it for being its own thing while also being a crime against the source material…

        Urban Dredd? I kept hoping netflix would pick that up as the pilot to a mega city one police proceedural. that was just some solid movie making and wish we’d gotten more, though conceed ‘what would you do for a sequel?’ thus the idea of direct to stremaing platform show giving any of a number of plots time and space to breathe.

        For me Tron Legacy was a case of ‘disney squandered what they had, then when that one airbrushed movie bombed and they got the MCU they shelved Tron’ … likely permenently. Had a fun soundtrack. Ya the father/son story is a cliche but it’s more an excuse to tour the world more than anything. I liked Legacy’s look as both Kevin’s use of late 80’s ‘money is no object’ hardware vs late 70’s likely PDP based hardware alongside software changes. After all by the end of the eighties the Unix Wars had happened and the landscape had changed. Plus Uprising, while flawed, had promise and showed what life was like in the early days of the regime when CLU kept a facad of normalcy.

        Strange Days feels like one of those movies a LOT of people sleep on and gloss over. I am seriously recommending finding the fan edit scene and seeking it out, because the work done just… elevates it.

        I can respect your opinions of Highlander II. again, fan edits do a lot to save this one for me but even at base ‘eh it’s in the slush pile of shit movies I can run in the background. It’s goofy it’s dumb… run with it.’ Then again I’ve kinda hated most of the highlander movies past the first one for having very little that interests me. Though I did love the show. It was a fun ride even when it got weird. Though I will admit it is guilty of helping popularize the ‘katanas are just better’ trope.

        • See, Constantine I had no issue with because I had never read the source. I thought it was fine, as a movie.

          Urban Dredd almost makes me cry. It was so good, in so many ways. Maybe it, too, wasn’t faithful to the source, which was pretty intentionally campy and Dredd was more grimdark than even the comics. But I just loved Urban’s Dredd; he is Dredd for me. An Urban-less Dredd is like imagining Deadpool without Reynolds. Sometimes the actor embodies a character so well it overshadows even the source.

          I agree completely with what you day about Legacy. Tron does and should reflect the technology of the times; computers have gotten more glossy and organic. I just love the inner universe and aesthetic of the original Tron, and it’s hard to compete with first love.

          Yeah, I think Strange Days was just too weird for the time. I think if it were released today it’d do better. The target audience was still too niche, maybe, back then. I need to watch it again; I haven’t seen it in forever.

          I think it’s best if we just not speak of Highlander. The first is among my favorite movies, and as you say the series was surprisingly not at all bad. But all of the sequel films (3, right? God let it be only 2 abominations)… best left in the oubliette of forgotten memories.