There is an ongoing attempt to create an equivalence of Trans Persons (and anyone exposing youth to LGBTQ+ ideas in any form, including loving families) to pedophiles through CONSTANT repetition, despite any lack of widespread evidence. There is also a simultaneous attempt to strongly advocate for death penalty for pedophiles. I’m sure you can see where this is heading …
Mass purge of the Republican Party and owner class?
Only if justice was class blind, but it’s not.
That door can be made to swing both ways.
Only if you have the power to do so.
If the Republican Party can purge the United Kingdom they deserve the win that’s impressive range.
The question I want answered is was the (fake) word “pedosexual” made up by them or by trolls making fun of them?
“Pedosexual” was a false flag operation by 4channers to try and make people think LGBTQ folks supported pedos.
Was that with the MAPS thing?
MAPs is a 4chan troll yes
What are MAPs? First time I’ve come across it.
I think it was meant to be minor attracted person or some shit. I mostly just remember 4Chan trying to lump it into LGBT+ issues
Thank you for your reply.
I honestly have no idea if MAPs are trolls or actual pedos trying to rebrand.
Also, pedophiles are not all child molesters and vice versa.
In fact, most child abusers are not pedophiles. They victimize children not because they are children but because they are easy prey.
It’s about the power and control. If their victims weren’t children, they’d be called sociopaths or psychopaths.
Pedophilia can be easily treated but because of hate-mongers who have conflated these two things, many fear they’ll be arrested if they seek help. Even if they’ve never done anything wrong. Some do become abusers because they feel like they have no safe way of dealing with their feelings.
Trying to equate LGBTQ to pedophilia is using misinformation and lies to hurt and scare.
It’s the ultimate in hate and ignorance.
Transphobes aren’t using logic. They try to brand us as pedophiles to try to get rational people on their side and to normalize hate, but it’s a distraction. We’re obviously not pedos.
It also serves dual purpose because most transphobes look up to politicians who are literal pedos
Yuuup. Ten times out of ten it’s a republican politician who needs to “think of the children” a lot less.
This is how propaganda works. Take something you want people to hate, and insist that it is equivalent to something people already hate.
To distract from the fact that their churches are literal child rape conveyor belts
it’s all part of the childist propaganda that says only people from outside of the family could ever hurt children when reality says otherwise. hence the church calling themselves God’s family, priests being called father, paternalistic bs like that
Are you telling me that lesbians weren’t allowed to get married because their was no groom(ing)?
It’s very basic ‘think of the children’ rhetoric.
Our emotions are more easily manipulated in this way, because generally people are hard wired to protect babies and children.
So by associating trans people with paedophiles, right wingers are able to more easily hijack into what would otherwise be rational people. It also makes it more difficult to debate against because nobody wants to be labelled as someone who wants to hurt kids.
Best answer here. So much overthinking in this thread. Nope, OP nailed it, that simple, nothing need be added.
As you said, most people hate pedophiles. So by constantly labeling trans people as pedophiles, transphobes are trying to get most people to hate us.
most paedophiles are cis men. Cis women paedophiles absolutely dwarf paedophiles trans people even when accounting for population.
It turns out, people who violate others don’t need to go through years of doctor’s visits and dehumanizing bureaucracy to breach someone’s boundaries.
It’s just the same fascist projection repeated ad nauseum because it works. You immediately have to go on the defensive and tiptoe around the taboo subject of paedophilia instead of actually challenging their assumptions. Anything less gets you accused of accepting child abuse, which is just the first step repeated again. By the time you’ve even addressed the claims, anyone worth reaching out to has logged off and the fascists have inched closer to the levers of the state.
It never was about paedophilia, or rape, or abuse, or sports. It’s about exploiting emotions and appealing to a constructed idea of “common sense” that can tie you up in its endless tendrils so they can ignore you and dehumanise you more efficiently.
Projection.
Pure propaganda.
Just before I left the right, some people admitted it was a “noble lie”, to uphold male supremacy, as if one is able to change their gender why should they even stay in highly abusive relationships.
Of course true believers will eat up the “protect the children” line, but the opportunists just want be able to beat their wives into a bloody bulb, who will still love them after all of that, they just want a stronger “cisheteronormativity”.
Even little babies know the difference between mommy and daddy. The shift in attitude that’s required to reform transphobia (I know) means digging into the basement of how you think of yourself and the people you love. This is threatening, it’s scary.
For the conservative, a trans person should not exist. It contradicts the ‘natural’ hierarchy or is a rebellion against God. So their must be an alternative motive: sexual perversion. So you connect the dots between “scary” and “sexually deviant” and pedophile is the natural result.
Calling a trans person a sexual threat soothes the dissonance by shifting the identity “trans” into something where the repulsion and fear make sense. Pedophilia is a box where you can put people whom you fear and hate them actively without the need to examine your own motivations or ever, ever have to look at it from a trans perspective.
well done. best philosophical/psychological post in the thread.
It’s actually a very simple ploy they’ve used since before I was born (I’m not young). Anything they can paint as sexual, or that actually is out of the sexual “norm,” they will use as a scapegoat. They used it against blacks (coming after their white women), gays, and now trans. Pedophilia and rape are the two Worst Things, and if they can tie the Bad Guy du jour, that equals fear-votes. The best kind of right wing votes in all the land.
Well considering they elected Epstein’s closest friend (yeah it’s on tape), I would’nt try to make sens out of this. They need to hate people, they usually pick the easiest target aka minorities.
Because children are almost always used as an excuse for hating something you don’t really understand. They’re a group that can’t speak for themselves, so it’s easy to frame everything as “think of the children”.
Everybody hates pedophiles, so by calling [insert group here], pedophiles then you get most people to hate you.
People were once told that if you wore the clothes of the opposite sex, you were a pervert. If you wanted to be the other sex, you were a sexual deviant. And people who have no experience outside of these views TOLD to them find out there are people out there like that, they are perverted deviants who must be doing other deviant things to. That’s how people connect the two. False logic and correlation based on ignorance.
