For some context, we are first generation immigrants. My parents are Russian, my mother and her husband have been living here for 20 years (even got rid of Russian citizenship couple years ago), my biological father is still living in Russia.
It’s damn exhausting to discuss political topics with them, especially my father. He keeps telling me how great it is to live in Russia, how their economy is doing great and how he’s proud that they are defending their “brothers” in Donezk and Luhansk from the evil bandera regime in Ukraine.
My mom voted far right in the past election. She doesn’t believe she voted for nazis, but the party’s views on economics, climate policy and immigration seem to align with hers. She believes wind farms are harmful for the environment. What the actual fuck.
Whenever I try to argue with them, they tell me that I’ve been brainwashed by “Western propaganda”.
I’m at a loss. I love my parents and I know that nobody’s immune to propaganda, but it’s heartbreaking to see them holding these toxic beliefs. How would you deal with parents like these? Should I just declare to never talk about politics with them again since it’s pointless?
Have you seen the garbage dumps made up of the blades from wind farms that can’t be recycled? As for far right, Hitler was a fascist. Today the fascists are the far left, people like Antifa who believe violence is okay, in order to achieve their political beliefs. Imposing your beliefs on others using violence is fascism, and the left definitely engages in it. While I don’t think Putin is a good guy, it sounds like your Mom might be right about some things.
Political violence in the US is almost exclusively right wing these days. Fuck off with your lies and bullshit.
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There’s a whole lot of really wrong things there.
But show me those wind farm blade wastelands to start. Show me that - I’m gonna look by satellite because they’re huge - and we can talk later about those dangerous and violent anti-fascist types like demonstrators and veterans.
It would have taken less time to google yourself than type all those sentences. Go look.
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Have you send the ash lakes and ponds from industrial waste from coal power plants? Have breathed in the smoke as it fills the valleys of the mountains of your home state? Have you watched as rivers died from oxygen depletion? A couple tons of fiberglass is nothing compared to the shear desolation of carbon fuels. It’s easily contained.
There is a paradox known as the “tolerance paradox”. The basic premise is “should you tolerate the intolerant” while at first it may seem complex it’s really simple. No you should not. Those who call for violence on other deserve the boot. That is the difference between the left and the right. The right punishes those they deem ill fit to live in society. Forcefully. The left accepts, but are not push overs. Those who oppress deserve oppression.
What makes you think I want coal? Hydroelectric is the best way.
Hydroelectric is not the be all end all solution. It is highly local and has long term consequences to water ways, solar and wind are far superior in terms of environmental impact.
Wind and Solar are just as bad as coal. They require a lot of mining.
The mining isn’t entirely the bad part of coal. Mining can be contained it is a local pollutant. Burning it is the real issue. And fiberglass and solar panels are both made of silicon. One of the most abundant minerals on the planet it isn’t hard to get and mining it doesn’t create the same kind of drainage as coal mining.
But the diesel used to extract it, with the mining equipment, probably makes it a net loss over its lifetime. We’d have to see some studies on the power expended to create a solar panel, and how much it saves over it’s life, to see if solar is truly net savings over hydroelectric.
They have done the studies, it’s not. You can google to find them, I was going to pull them up for you but I’m out of my home country and I haven’t been able to access some sites for some reason.
Wind and especially solar produce a ton of energy. Some references I found stated a replacement rate of only a year for a wind turbine. Also you don’t need to use diesel to mine. Battery and electric operated heavy machinery are already in use.