Not advocating for universal access to porn or anything but is there any linkage or study showing a detrimental affect of porn on kids? A few things I’ll say from my own experiences. I first saw porn around 10 years old and I thought it was gross and didn’t have any desire to search for more. Later, in my early teens, I did search out porn but only softcore, because I thought vaginas were ugly. I did get a porn obsession for a long time and it did negatively impact at least one relationship, but that could’ve gone differently if my girlfriend was into any kind of porn (some girls are).
It’s a vice and can easily become addictive but I could also see video games filling the same role.
I see porn similarly to alcohol, most people are fine with it in moderation, but many struggle with addiction. I don’t think it’s appropriate for kids, but I also think it’s none of the government’s business and should be managed by parents, because the alternative opens the door to a huge risk for doxxing responsible consumers.
And yeah, video games are similar as well, many are okay with it, and many struggle with addiction, which unfortunately seems to have a much higher chance of draining your bank account than a porn addiction. That said, I don’t think it’s the government’s business, and parents should manage this for their kids.
There is plenty of evidence that some people struggle with compulsory sex disorder. Porn addiction can lead to erectile dysfunction. Many on the internet won’t admit it and will down vote any discussion of the topic for some reason.
Couldn’t get to the site and I’m curious. What is the incidence of compulsory sex disorder and erectile dysfuntion caused by porn? Are there any known predispositions?
I’m not an expert on the topic and don’t claim to be. I only first learned about it by watching a youtube series by Terry Crews called “Dirty Little Secret” where he admits he had this problem and how it affected his marriage.
While it’s probably true that there are people who might struggle with porn, there are plenty of people who struggle with addictions of all kinds - alcohol, gambling, opiates, etc.
But there are certainly valid questions that come up with stuff like this:
Is the government’s place to enforce a mandatory 18yr age requirement to view porn?
If so, what kinds of unintended ramifications are possible from imposing such a requirement? I can think of quite a few, but I’m curious what others think.
Could it be argued that this is an attempt to legislate morality or impose censorship?
I think that these are fair questions and perhaps the meat and potatoes of the issue lies a bit deeper than anyone’s sole opinion on whether porn is “bad for you” or not.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I did not say whether it should be banned or made difficult to find - I was pointing out the evidence that is out there that it is a problem for some people.
My understanding is that it’s not necessarily porn addiction that causes this, but a particular style of masturbation that some people refer to as “death grip”. Source: a friend of mine who used to masturbate every night before bed to sleep better, but this began causing issues with his partner due to ED. He eventually solved it by using a different grip while masturbating.
In short, if you feel like you’ve come away from this conversation with things to reflect on, then that’s great and I’m glad about that. However, “porn addiction”, as a term, describes a whole bundle of stuff that is still pretty poorly understood, because it can be hard to discern between symptoms and causes
I get ads on the radio, TV, and billboards for ED, and I wonder how many of them are directly related to porn. I’m not a scientist, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people “suffering” just prefer porn to their SO on some level (maybe subconsciously).
I’m asking is the response proportional to the damage? I never said I thought it wasn’t harmful or that we shouldn’t regulate access. Obviously many people are upset with the adult verification methods that these states are using, but is this a necessary evil or virtue signaling? All we know is that kids shouldn’t view porn, so how far does that get taken? All the way to a complete ban? What’s the measure of success even?
Exactly. So I don’t imagine lawmakers will quit there. And my previous posts weren’t to say, “It’s only crack. How bad can it be?” But more to say, “Let’s define the problem before we try to fix it.” Stating the problem as, “Kids are looking at porn,” is oversimplifying and misses the cause and effect.
I worked in the porn industry for almost a decade. I see no moral issues with it, but there is growing evidence that porn addiction is a problem for many.
Not advocating for universal access to porn or anything but is there any linkage or study showing a detrimental affect of porn on kids? A few things I’ll say from my own experiences. I first saw porn around 10 years old and I thought it was gross and didn’t have any desire to search for more. Later, in my early teens, I did search out porn but only softcore, because I thought vaginas were ugly. I did get a porn obsession for a long time and it did negatively impact at least one relationship, but that could’ve gone differently if my girlfriend was into any kind of porn (some girls are).
It’s a vice and can easily become addictive but I could also see video games filling the same role.
I see porn similarly to alcohol, most people are fine with it in moderation, but many struggle with addiction. I don’t think it’s appropriate for kids, but I also think it’s none of the government’s business and should be managed by parents, because the alternative opens the door to a huge risk for doxxing responsible consumers.
And yeah, video games are similar as well, many are okay with it, and many struggle with addiction, which unfortunately seems to have a much higher chance of draining your bank account than a porn addiction. That said, I don’t think it’s the government’s business, and parents should manage this for their kids.
Please look over yourbrainonporn.com.
There is plenty of evidence that some people struggle with compulsory sex disorder. Porn addiction can lead to erectile dysfunction. Many on the internet won’t admit it and will down vote any discussion of the topic for some reason.
Couldn’t get to the site and I’m curious. What is the incidence of compulsory sex disorder and erectile dysfuntion caused by porn? Are there any known predispositions?
I’m not an expert on the topic and don’t claim to be. I only first learned about it by watching a youtube series by Terry Crews called “Dirty Little Secret” where he admits he had this problem and how it affected his marriage.
While it’s probably true that there are people who might struggle with porn, there are plenty of people who struggle with addictions of all kinds - alcohol, gambling, opiates, etc.
But there are certainly valid questions that come up with stuff like this:
I think that these are fair questions and perhaps the meat and potatoes of the issue lies a bit deeper than anyone’s sole opinion on whether porn is “bad for you” or not.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I did not say whether it should be banned or made difficult to find - I was pointing out the evidence that is out there that it is a problem for some people.
It is so much easier to have nuanced discussions on Lemmy. You are correct I realize now you were just responding to poster above you
a ton of stuff just started to make sense
My understanding is that it’s not necessarily porn addiction that causes this, but a particular style of masturbation that some people refer to as “death grip”. Source: a friend of mine who used to masturbate every night before bed to sleep better, but this began causing issues with his partner due to ED. He eventually solved it by using a different grip while masturbating.
In short, if you feel like you’ve come away from this conversation with things to reflect on, then that’s great and I’m glad about that. However, “porn addiction”, as a term, describes a whole bundle of stuff that is still pretty poorly understood, because it can be hard to discern between symptoms and causes
I get ads on the radio, TV, and billboards for ED, and I wonder how many of them are directly related to porn. I’m not a scientist, but I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people “suffering” just prefer porn to their SO on some level (maybe subconsciously).
Toes are much more dirtier than anything else on your body. Yet you love to wear sandals and to take off your shoes at home.
And this is relevant how exactly?
I’m asking is the response proportional to the damage? I never said I thought it wasn’t harmful or that we shouldn’t regulate access. Obviously many people are upset with the adult verification methods that these states are using, but is this a necessary evil or virtue signaling? All we know is that kids shouldn’t view porn, so how far does that get taken? All the way to a complete ban? What’s the measure of success even?
ID checks to do porn have basically zero effect on minors’ ability to view porn.
Exactly. So I don’t imagine lawmakers will quit there. And my previous posts weren’t to say, “It’s only crack. How bad can it be?” But more to say, “Let’s define the problem before we try to fix it.” Stating the problem as, “Kids are looking at porn,” is oversimplifying and misses the cause and effect.
The only thing wrong with porn is the moral judgement some associate with it.
Just because you think porn is immoral does not make it true.
I worked in the porn industry for almost a decade. I see no moral issues with it, but there is growing evidence that porn addiction is a problem for many.
You are using a device capable of finding the information you so desire. Instead you decided to contribute you whataboutism.