Fair enough. I guess my overarching point is that making generalizing statements like “all cops are racist” or “the victims of cops can’t stop being black” are harmful to the discussion considering there are also non-black victims of police brutality.
I feel it’s better to say that there’s an issue with racism within the police force that needs a solution (which is one of the main points of BLM) rather than resorting to lazy slogans like ACAB that do nothing to further the discussion. The very definition of slacktivism
Id say that’s definitely one of the core issues, but also the police’s core history as well. I do know that cops can do good things, but I’ll still stand with the ACAB crowd all day. Even though those cops can and do good things, at their core they’ve joined an organization that will protect themselves and the rich at the cost of us. That is undeniable. There is something categorically wrong with the police force in the US and likely most of the world.
This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You’d have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.
I’d prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.
That’s what we’re talking about though. What they’re doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don’t need to be escalated, they’re prone to fear because it’s how they’re trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.
No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You’re trading false security for your rights.
The problem is you have no way of knowing, and the consequences of interacting with a cop are frequently death or life altering injury. As a result you have to treat every interaction as of you are dealing with a racist murderer who faces no consequences.
While people might actually say out loud that all cops are racist, what they actually mean is that the system is racist. Not all cops are racist, but they participate in a racist system. That makes them bastards.
The victims of cops can’t stop being black while only 1,858 out 8,248 victims of police brutality were black from 2017-2024
It’s seems the proponents of ACAB are only capable of heuristic reasoning.
That’s not a graph of police brutality, that is a graph of killings by gunshot wounds from police.
Now let’s find out how many people are black out of the US population and figure out why the numbers you posted is a problem.
https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/data/redistricting-supplementary-tables/redistricting-supplementary-table-package.pdf
Fair enough. I guess my overarching point is that making generalizing statements like “all cops are racist” or “the victims of cops can’t stop being black” are harmful to the discussion considering there are also non-black victims of police brutality.
I feel it’s better to say that there’s an issue with racism within the police force that needs a solution (which is one of the main points of BLM) rather than resorting to lazy slogans like ACAB that do nothing to further the discussion. The very definition of slacktivism
Id say that’s definitely one of the core issues, but also the police’s core history as well. I do know that cops can do good things, but I’ll still stand with the ACAB crowd all day. Even though those cops can and do good things, at their core they’ve joined an organization that will protect themselves and the rich at the cost of us. That is undeniable. There is something categorically wrong with the police force in the US and likely most of the world.
This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You’d have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.
I’d prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.
That’s what we’re talking about though. What they’re doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don’t need to be escalated, they’re prone to fear because it’s how they’re trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.
No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You’re trading false security for your rights.
The problem is you have no way of knowing, and the consequences of interacting with a cop are frequently death or life altering injury. As a result you have to treat every interaction as of you are dealing with a racist murderer who faces no consequences.
While people might actually say out loud that all cops are racist, what they actually mean is that the system is racist. Not all cops are racist, but they participate in a racist system. That makes them bastards.