• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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      So you’re an authoritarian bootlicker who can’t tell the difference between defending free speech vs spouting hateful speech.

      I’ll defend a Nazi’s right to say their hateful shit. I’ll also gladly plead guilty to an assault charge over beating their ass for it.

      They shouldn’t fear the government for their speech. They should fear physical retaliation from their community.

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        That’s the problem with the internet, really. You can’t punch these assholes through your monitor or keyboard. The consequence here is moderation. Removing these asshats from their platform is the punch in the nuts that they deserve. It’s still free speech because these are non-government websites.

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          Considering this moderation is often done in cooperation with government censors, and the executives working at these platforms are often former government, the lines are blurred enough that I don’t support it.

          We need more legal blocks to prevent the government from getting around the constitutional protections by coordinating with corporate third parties.

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          Exactly, which is why this should be handled by the platforms as they choose instead of by government requirement. If you don’t like how a platform moderates content, don’t use that platform.

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        Like so many others, you’ve mixed up general society with law enforcement. We defend the right for the Nazis to say their piece without being imprisoned. Running a business profiting from letting Nazis publish their speech is a choice, and not a necessary one. Using and supporting the social relevance of a social network that voluntarily publishes hate speech for profit is a choice, and not a necessary one.

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          3 hours ago

          And that’s exactly what the user you’re replying to has been saying all along.

          This post is about the UN, as in, a governmental authority. The whole discussion here is that moderation isn’t something for the government to do (outside of prosecutable crimes), it’s for private entities to do. Meta can moderate its platforms however it chooses, and users can similarly choose to stop using the platform. Governments shouldn’t force Meta to moderate or not moderate, that’s completely outside its bailiwick.