Like, why is it so widespread, what causes it, what solutions are available, etc. I don’t really know how to ask this question so I hope I’m making sense

  • xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    if men display feelings, they’re seen as bitches by men, and weak by women (exceptions exist, but generally speaking).

    basically, a piece of toxic masculinity….
    men are only allowed to display emotions of anger or mild happiness.
    i think this is a big reason why sports are so popular… it’s more about camaraderie than anything else.
    also why they like to get drunk and say “i love you man” and all that mushy stuff.

    in a nutshell: because they’re taught to be that way.

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      Ignore all that and be yourself, if you’re around people that treat you that poorly you should find yourself new friends

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          I used to struggle with this game of trying to be perceived the way I am “supposed to”. It’s when I gave up on that game that likeminded people just kinda noticed in everyday interactions.

          I’ve made a lot of friends since then, and I’ve got a lot less to worry about

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            Faulty and even dangerous use of the phrase “supposed to.” It implies a pressure to conform to some standard of etiquette or game rule. “You’re supposed to keep your elbows off the table.” “You’re supposed to wait for the umpire to say ‘play ball’ before you pitch.”

            If I were teaching a shop class, and I were to hear one of my students say “you’re supposed to use a push stick when doing thin rips on a table saw,” I would say corrective action is necessary. While yes, using a push stick while performing thin rips is good practice, use of the phrase “supposed to” implies an attitude that it is the shop teacher’s pet peeve, and that the student will be free of that pointless ritual once out on the job.

            You use a push stick because a table saw is a device designed to tear the bodies of living things apart, and rapidly. If you touch the blade, your body will be torn apart, and rapidly. While performing a thin rip with your bare hands, your hands will pass very close to the blade, anything goes wrong, a kickback or similar calamity will hurt you in ways a doctor can’t fix. Push sticks are PPE, we use them so we don’t get injured, not because “it’s the rules.”

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              “supposed to” as in how some people and social groups except and push particular behaviours from certain individuals. As in women are “supposed to” be in the kitchen.

              it’s to present the stupid way some social groups and cultures work

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                  Some people have learned better, and not all cultures are as bad with this. But unfortunately, the majority of people is still stuck with the social pressure to be or behave in certain ways that are simply not benefitting anyone

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      if men display feelings, they’re seen as bitches by men, and weak by women (exceptions exist, but generally speaking).

      I don’t care if “alpaha” males think I am a soyboy, but you ain’t keeping a partner if she got the “ick”

      And most women get the ick over random shit including something that they might perceive as unregulated emotions.

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        i agree… i just don’t think that’s an inherent thing in women and it’s a symptom of a sick society…

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          Good point, it could very well be. Sadly, it’s really hard to tell why, and which women will respond with it. I’ve never heard a woman alluding to it irl, but I have seen them respond in both ways.

          The ick is huge. The only woman most men can open up to without playing russian roulette is their mother (assuming a healthy relationship).