The US is not a mono-culture and most of us (unfortunately not all of them voted) are against most of the things we as a country are ridiculed over.
I swear, replace “US” or “Americans” in some of the stuff Europeans are posting/commenting with any other country, and those would sound xenophobic AF. But somehow, because 'Murica, it gets a pass.
It’s kind of funny because if you go look at the reply about soccer, several people are like “that wasn’t the Europeans, that was the brits!”
It’s the same thing here with different states doing different crazy things … Not that we also don’t do some stuff nationally that’s crazy, like electing a certain felon, but ya know
Europe is nothing other than a geographical location, western Russia is also in “Europe”, but surely you can see how this is not the same as the US, which is not a geographical location but a specific political entity?
People obviously don’t judge Venezuela for what the US does and vice versa, so why include the UK in discourse about EU?
Iirc I assumed you simply used Europe as short-hand for EU, kind of like saying America but you really mean the US, because otherwise the comment makes no sense at all.
Also I’m kind of confused how quickly you’re giving the UK the cold shoulder. It was in the EU for 47 years and has only been out of it for 4 (less than a tenth of the time), and yet you seem really quick to dismiss it and what it may or may not have brought to the EU. Why is that?
The UK was giving the rest of the EU the cold shoulder for most of its time in the Union. Not willing to switch to the Euro, not wanting to join Schengen.
Not sure if you are British, but even though I would be happy if the UK would join the EU in a few dozens years, I also understand why people feel a bit cold towards the UK in the context of Brexit.
This is a widely recognized principle: kicking those above is OK, kicking those below isn’t. The US is the most powerful country in the world, its culture dominates the globe, and celebrates that fact. So they are OK to kick.
If Europeans looked at states like countries it’d make more sense to them. Hell it almost is with the size of states vs counties, the amount of land and the fact that every freaking state still has its own set of laws that may differ.
True, but even then each state isn’t even a mono-culture. I’m as guilty as any when it comes to stereotyping states (particularly Florida via “Florida Man”) but I’m trying to get out of that mindset myself lol.
Even within States, there is a diversity of culture. Looking at Louisiana, the New Orleans area is highly influenced by French history resulting in Cajun culture, while the rest of the state is generally Southern. Florida is similar to Ancient Greece and its city-states in that the metropolitan areas have their own culture. But even within the southeast metro area, Miami and West Palm Beach are culturally quite different. Even more zoomed in, consider the Bay Area (Frisco). The Haight-Ashbury district is commonly considered the birthplace of the hippie movement, whereas across the bay is Oakland, birthplace of the Black Panthers. Both were quite progressive yet at odds with each other due to cultural differences stemming from race.
We can zoom out and look at cultural differences across the country within the same racial group. For example, there’s the famous East Coast vs West Coast rivalry in hip-hop that is so real, it resulted in the murders of Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls. Even within the same coast, New York hip-hop, such as Busta Rhymes, Jay-Z, and Wu-Tang, is noticeably different from Atalanta hip-hop, such as Outkast, Missy Elliot, and Ludacris. Even as static as race is, white rapper Eminem is often included in Black culture.
Within the White rural sphere, we can contrast Upper Peninsula Michiganders (Yoopers) with their major influence coming from long harsh winters to the Appalachians who are known for being culturally isolated, having a mistrust of outsiders and a history of conflict with mining companies. Then, we have rural white people from West Texas to Nevada that are influenced by the Wild West period and local native cultures. Even within that, Texans are much more conservative with social matters whereas Nevada has legal gambling and prostitution. They way I make sense of culture in the US is that it is an overlapping area of varying fields that interact with each other so that even direct lifelong neighbors can have have vastly different cultures.
I don’t think I have to explain that obviously, this is the case in Europe as well. E.g. Germany alone has 16 vastly different states, and each state has multiple subcultures. The main difference is, our subcultures are more than a thousand years old, and the US 250.
The US is not a mono-culture and most of us (unfortunately not all of them voted) are against most of the things we as a country are ridiculed over.
I swear, replace “US” or “Americans” in some of the stuff Europeans are posting/commenting with any other country, and those would sound xenophobic AF. But somehow, because 'Murica, it gets a pass.
It’s kind of funny because if you go look at the reply about soccer, several people are like “that wasn’t the Europeans, that was the brits!”
It’s the same thing here with different states doing different crazy things … Not that we also don’t do some stuff nationally that’s crazy, like electing a certain felon, but ya know
The UK is literally not in the EU. Florida is literally in the US.
Isn’t the UK in Europe though? The statement was about Europe, not the EU.
Yes
The amount of people who equate brexit to the UK leaving Europe and not the EU is ridiculous
Europe is nothing other than a geographical location, western Russia is also in “Europe”, but surely you can see how this is not the same as the US, which is not a geographical location but a specific political entity?
People obviously don’t judge Venezuela for what the US does and vice versa, so why include the UK in discourse about EU?
Iirc I assumed you simply used Europe as short-hand for EU, kind of like saying America but you really mean the US, because otherwise the comment makes no sense at all.
This thread is about soccer, homes.
I mean including the UK in any soccer/footbal related discussion is just unceccesarily cruel to the UK so may as well leave it out.
Lmao I’m in the wrong thread 💀
That now makes more sense ha ha
Also I’m kind of confused how quickly you’re giving the UK the cold shoulder. It was in the EU for 47 years and has only been out of it for 4 (less than a tenth of the time), and yet you seem really quick to dismiss it and what it may or may not have brought to the EU. Why is that?
The UK was giving the rest of the EU the cold shoulder for most of its time in the Union. Not willing to switch to the Euro, not wanting to join Schengen.
Not sure if you are British, but even though I would be happy if the UK would join the EU in a few dozens years, I also understand why people feel a bit cold towards the UK in the context of Brexit.
Of course, and both Canada and Mexico are in North America.
This is a widely recognized principle: kicking those above is OK, kicking those below isn’t. The US is the most powerful country in the world, its culture dominates the globe, and celebrates that fact. So they are OK to kick.
So Europe acknowledges that USA is superior?
Close the thread, we got 'em
If Europeans looked at states like countries it’d make more sense to them. Hell it almost is with the size of states vs counties, the amount of land and the fact that every freaking state still has its own set of laws that may differ.
True, but even then each state isn’t even a mono-culture. I’m as guilty as any when it comes to stereotyping states (particularly Florida via “Florida Man”) but I’m trying to get out of that mindset myself lol.
Wyoming is a monoculture. It’s too small of a population to be anything else.
/s
Even within States, there is a diversity of culture. Looking at Louisiana, the New Orleans area is highly influenced by French history resulting in Cajun culture, while the rest of the state is generally Southern. Florida is similar to Ancient Greece and its city-states in that the metropolitan areas have their own culture. But even within the southeast metro area, Miami and West Palm Beach are culturally quite different. Even more zoomed in, consider the Bay Area (Frisco). The Haight-Ashbury district is commonly considered the birthplace of the hippie movement, whereas across the bay is Oakland, birthplace of the Black Panthers. Both were quite progressive yet at odds with each other due to cultural differences stemming from race.
We can zoom out and look at cultural differences across the country within the same racial group. For example, there’s the famous East Coast vs West Coast rivalry in hip-hop that is so real, it resulted in the murders of Tupac Shakur and Biggie Smalls. Even within the same coast, New York hip-hop, such as Busta Rhymes, Jay-Z, and Wu-Tang, is noticeably different from Atalanta hip-hop, such as Outkast, Missy Elliot, and Ludacris. Even as static as race is, white rapper Eminem is often included in Black culture.
Within the White rural sphere, we can contrast Upper Peninsula Michiganders (Yoopers) with their major influence coming from long harsh winters to the Appalachians who are known for being culturally isolated, having a mistrust of outsiders and a history of conflict with mining companies. Then, we have rural white people from West Texas to Nevada that are influenced by the Wild West period and local native cultures. Even within that, Texans are much more conservative with social matters whereas Nevada has legal gambling and prostitution. They way I make sense of culture in the US is that it is an overlapping area of varying fields that interact with each other so that even direct lifelong neighbors can have have vastly different cultures.
I don’t think I have to explain that obviously, this is the case in Europe as well. E.g. Germany alone has 16 vastly different states, and each state has multiple subcultures. The main difference is, our subcultures are more than a thousand years old, and the US 250.
Hey hey, don’t forget about China lol. ‘Oh you’re Chinese? You must be brainwashed AF. Lemme teach you a few things about 4 June 1989.’