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      Doesn’t really count if you have to google it first to know what it is, that’s not what will save the European economy in the future. In the mean time other regions of the world dominate battery technology, battery-electric vehicles, handheld devices, social media, semiconductor technology, quantum computing, and basically the whole internet

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        Doesn’t really count if you have to google it first to know what it is

        Are you saying that semiconductors and chipset manufacturing is not a critical domain today?

        battery technology

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umicore

        social media

        Ironic as you are using a Lemmy instance based in Austria

        A few other companies in the fields you mentioned:

        • Spotify
        • SAP
        • Volkswagen
        • BMW

        https://finance.yahoo.com/news/20-most-valuable-european-tech-221145055.html

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          Yes, and as we all know, feddit.org absolutely dominates the social media market.

          I specifically wrote that in these areas other regions of the world are dominating. I’m well aware that there are some players from the EU in these areas. That’s not the point. Europe is not leading in any major development of the last 30 years while in other areas they lose market share to the competition like automotive or space (with the notable exception of aviation).

          Let’s look at tech companies. Look at that list and tell me with a straight face that Europe is playing a dominant role:

          https://companiesmarketcap.com/tech/largest-tech-companies-by-market-cap/

          Out of the 100 biggest companies, there are only 10 from the whole continent.

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            ASML is such an undisputed leader in today’s chip ecosystem that it’s hard to believe the company’s market dominance really only dates back to 2017, when its EUV machine, after 17 years of development, upended the conventional process for making chips.

            It’s also a testament to ASML’s dominance that it is for the most part no longer allowed to sell its most advanced systems to customers in China. Though ASML still does business in China, in 2019, following pressure from the Trump administration, the Dutch government began imposing restrictions on ASML’s exports of EUV machines to China. Those rules were tightened further just last year and now also impose limits on some of the company’s deep-ultraviolet (DUV) machines, which are used to make less highly advanced chips than EUV systems.

            Yet although today everyone is banking on ASML to keep pushing the industry forward, there is speculation that a competitor could emerge from China. Van den Brink was dismissive of this possibility, citing the gap in even last-generation lithography.

            “SMEE are making DUV machines, or at least claim they can,” he told MIT Technology Review, referring to a company that makes the predecessor to EUV lithography technology, and pointed out that ASML still has the dominant market share. The political pressures could mean more progress for China. But getting to the level of complexity involved in ASML’s suite of machines, with low, high, and hyper NA is another matter, he says: “I feel quite comfortable that this will be a long time before they can copy that.”

            https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/04/01/1090393/how-asml-took-over-the-chipmaking-chessboard/

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        You keep using your phone, and ignoring what tech allows all modern computers to exist. Tech isn’t a major industry, right?