cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/24607393
credit for this post to :
@denimaww@lemmy.world
The US is actually going to implement a nationwide abortion ban and the measures for how it’s going to be handled are already in the works. This bill, which I link to here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-resolution/7/text , seems ok at first glance and only seems to want to implement nationwide healthcare centers for women. But when you actually look at what these Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers are and mean to offer, it becomes really clear what’s going on.
On the first page of the PDF or booklet that appear when you search for the healthcare centers it is clear that they are supported by pro-life organisations and hold extreme pro-life values. And when you read the (very short) booklet it states their values and services that are to be provided. Among them is a requirement for “Abortion Pill Reversal” and encouragement for “Sterilization Reversal”. The last page clearly states their values, where among them it states that:
“Abortion is not women’s healthcare, because of the damage it causes to women’s physical and emotional health and the destruction of unborn life, many of whom are females. Abortion is usually something women turn to when they feel they do not have another choice. This is a tragedy and the opposite of choice and empowerment.”
And it goes on to list similiar values. The bill to implement these healthcare centers states that:
"That the House of Representatives—
(1) expresses its support for women nationwide to have access to comprehensive, convenient, compassionate, life-affirming, high-quality health care; and
(2) recognizes the high standards established by Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers consortium as standards worth implementing nationwide."
This means that the values that these Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers have are to be set as standards nationwide.
A link to the PDF/booklet about the Pro Women’s Healthcare Centers (PWHC): https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/PWHC-Booklet.pdf
If only liberals had self reflection to learn why the lost the election in a landslide. Nope. Blame voters!
Edit:
Keep fucking crying. Never self reflect that it’s YOUR FAULT for not pushing the dems left. Never self reflect that the democrats DID THIS TO THEMSELVES.
I absolutely will blame voters you simpleton
congratulations!
I agree with most of what you said, but voting 3rd party in the general election really is mathematically equivalent to simply not voting.
And it’s worse when it’s voting 3rd party in place of voting for the least bad of the two electable parties, then (just like not voting) it’s mathematically equivalent to voting for the most bad of the two parties.
This is not an opinion. It’s how the elections are structured, and I would very much prefer a better structure, but we don’t have it and have to work with what we have.
Even in the primaries, voting 3rd party usually simply means being unable to influence the major parties - but in this case you are absolutely correct that the “primaries” were a farce.
Oh for fucks sake. Electoral college. I’m in a solid blue state it doesn’t fucking matter who the fuck I vote for or if I vote at all. But even if I was in a swing state there’s no way in fucking hell id be voting for a genocider and liberals need to get that through their thick fucking minds instead of smugly admonishing and tsk tsking everyone with fucking morals who refused to vote for that piece of shit.
This is NOT the way to win elections and blue MAGA is too high on their own supply to understand why they fucking lost in a landslide.
DEMOCRATS ARE TO BLAME FOR TRUMPS RETURN. RUN A COMPETITIVE PRIMARY AND THIS WOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED.
also in my state I can vote for whoever I want in a primary. I can vote in the democrat or Republican or progressive (state party) primary. Another +1 for Vermonts pro democracy policies.
Yeah, I was writing for the perspective of someone whose votes mattered at all to begin with (which isn’t myself). Indeed the electoral college is its own catastrophe and needs to die.
Anyway, yes, the DNC is to blame. I agree.
However a part of the mechanism that helped trump win is opinions like “even if I was in a swing state there’s no way in fucking hell id be voting for a genocider” - I get it, I really do, but if I were in a swing state myself there’s no way I’d help the rapist convict even worse genocider win. There were no good options this election, but there were orders of magnitude differences between levels of bad.
I’m not voting for a genocider period. I voted third party which is a vote against genocide. I have zero regrets and am enjoying the liberal fucking meltdown over it.
Which 3rd party did you vote for that was against genocide?
I voted for de la Cruz, party for socialism and liberation.
I’ve got some bad news for you…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation
Staunch support for the PRC and DPRK, which are pretty complicit in genocide. You voted for as much of a “genocider” as Kamala is, and you got a literally “finish the job” actual genocide supporter instead.
It was a fuck you to the US government. As if a party that doesn’t even get 1% of the vote would gain any power.
I guess next time I’ll just not vote, would that be better for you? Or should I continue to be backstabbed by democrats? Would that please you? Anyone who doesn’t support the genocide ticket is a fascist right? Typical lemmy.world user.
What landslide? Why do people keep insisting that this was a resounding defeat? The margin was absolutely minuscule.
Because it was a landslide. They lost the presidency, the senate, the house, state governments, local elections. My state lost the most seats.
Not calling it a landslide is liberal la la land refuse to self reflect cope.
Spoiler: you voted to put an actual genocide supporter in office, either knowingly so, or against all available, pervasive and obvious info, ignorantly so.
It’s also not an opinion, that when people feel like you don’t actually act in their interests, they start voting for others.
Mainstream and centrist democrats do just enough to be less awful than republicans, but that’s not what we need as a country. Biden did just enough to return to the old (and only less awful) status quo.
See people who give a fuck about genocide watching most dems support genocide by Israel.
See people who are smart enough to know this economy actually sucks for the bottom 90%
See people who watched as Biden and his government agencies pissed away four years and failed to hold a fucking insurrectionist to account.
See people watching democrats treat that insirrectionist’s party as if they were somehow reasonable and fair minded people with whom “compromising” is acceptable; and deciding that, no, maybe we shouldn’t vote for people willing to parrot the republican party line on immigration.
I voted Harris, but damn was my nose aching from pinching it closed. At a certain point party leadership needs to pull their heads out their asses and realize the reason voters left is because they keep running to the right. You want more voters? Try running to the left.
Climate resilience. Universal healthcare. Tackle income inequality. Tackle the cause of education debt. Tackle the cause of gun violence and throw in solid, reasonable restrictions on guns. Tackle homelessness with proven strategies. Tackle drug addiction in ways that actually work. Open up immigration and tackle that crisis too.
Like, it ain’t rocket science. (Though we also need to fund that and keep all the patents here and not held exclusively by Chinese companies making bank off our research grants.)
Edit: this is like a store blaming the customers when the customers stop shopping there because the store doesn’t sell what they want.
Beautifully said.
Voters are literally the ones who elect the government so….
And who picks the people that voters get to vote for?
FUCKING THANK YOU.
What fucking primary?!?!?!?!?!
No, he didn’t.
He kind of implied it. Later he said that’s not what he meant. But back in 2020, he was saying he would be a “bridge” to a new generation.
Most people assumed that meant a 1 term presidency to buy time to develop talent.
As I said in my edit: The bridge candidate stuff is just fluff to get people to not worry about his age, it doesn’t mean anything. It is certainly not a promise of anything.
Why do you consider something that people assumed to be a promise by Biden?
Because words have meaning and were understood to mean he would be a 1 term presidency.
The simple fact that he didn’t correct that assumption until the run up in 2024 shows he absolutely meant to imply that he would be.
Stop gaslighting. We’re not stupid.
Yes, words have meaning. Biden said “I don’t have any plans on one term.” Why does some vague suggestion of being a ‘bridge’ get you to ignore those very easy to understand words?
To my knowledge, biden never corrected that assumption- which was a commonly voice belief, considering his staff ran with it to persuade hesitant votes wanting somebody who hadn’t been in government longer than most of us have been alive.
so your going to have to drop a source- dated to 2020- showing biden correcting that narrative. Especially when his campaign staffers "leaked’ him saying he would be a 1 term pres privately.
It’s not possible to ignore words that were never actually said, or a campaign that did everything to imply it short of stating it.
Liberal media claimed otherwise.
Anonymous sources offering their personal opinion are not Biden.
That’s why numerous liberal media sources reported otherwise? The people who suck the democrat party’s dick for a living?
Nah. When he ran in 2020 he made it seem like he’d be one term. He’s playing both sides. I can’t believe you fall for his fucking lies.
Edit: he promised to be a “bridge candidate” to younger candidates, implying a one term presidency which he then pretended he didn’t say. I feel like I live in the fucking twilight zone being gaslit by blue MAGA twats.
How did you get that when he explicitly said he had no plans on one term?
What lies am I falling for? I always thought he would run for a second term, and then he did. You are the one that fell for the lies, thinking that he wouldn’t run again.
Edit: The bridge candidate stuff is just fluff to get people to not worry about his age, it doesn’t mean anything. It is certainly not a promise of anything.
BULLSHIT. It was clearly implied he’d be a one term candidate. His own fucking words which he took back when convenient because he’s a fucking narcissist. All the liberal media saying it. All the “Biden campaign sources” saying it.
Stop fucking gaslighting it’s embarrassing.
Several anonymous sources said that they thought that he would not run again. Why do you believe anonymous sources opinions?
Is Biden not a “Biden campaign source”? Because he explicitly said he had no intention of running only one term.
And why have you abandoned your original claim of a Biden promise?
His own words implied a one term presidency! All his campaign staff and media were saying so! Stop fucking gaslighting it’s fucking embarrassing. Liberals using pretzel logic to excuse a fucking genociding liar. Pathetic. Do fucking better. Stop simping for horrible people.
Biden will be remembered as one of the worst presidents in history for good fucking reason. He was an atrocious failure and did nothing not a goddamn fucking thing to stop fascism.
15 day old account where every comment is biden cope? Go back to bluesky DNC shill. Blocked.
Stop repeating “liberal media”. We don’t have it.
We have oligarch media and independent media.
The liberal media is the media of the oligarchs. Liberals protect capital. They’re not left.
By not voting for the bad option they got the worse option. Congrats I guess to them?
A genocider is the less bad option? You people are fucking brainwashed and hopeless.
Lol you voted to bring the genocide here. Whomp whomp
You’re right, I voted for biden in 2020 which is one of my biggest regrets in life.
He’s the genocider. Meanwhile trump got his peace deal signed which means for eight fucking months this could of happened under biden but that senile racist Zionist fuck wrote a blank check to Israel instead.
Love liberal logic. Genocide is ok as long as it’s brown people abroad!
You might be slow homie. Neither party was or is gonna stop the genocide. It’s almost like we make a bunch of money selling weapons in some kind of military industrial complex. But I’ll let you figure it out for yourself enjoy these interesting times.
So you admit that a vote for Democrats was a vote for genocide… and you’re still blaming the voters for failing to vote for them anyway?
Make it make sense.
While voting for Kamala means nothing changes But here is the fun part not voting for Kamala means the genocide comes to the states too!
Hey, maybe if the genocide comes here the Democrats will stop supporting it.
…Nah, who are we kidding? The Dems will just keep compromising in the hopes of appeasing the billionaire owners of this country.
JFC. Even if both candidates were identical on the issue of genocide— they’re not, but even if— you still stack up and compare all their other differences and you fucking vote for the best one available, because I guarantee that we wouldn’t be talking about an impending nationwide abortion ban if Kamala had won.
If Kamala had won, all we’d be talking about today would be Jan 6th 2, the inauguration day terror attacks, and how the Democrats are already bending over backwards to capitulate to petulant Republicans.