• BaumGeist@lemmy.ml
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      none, and gods willing that will always be the case. Civil war isn’t just “good guys vs bad guys”—hell, it wasn’t even that the first time around, despite union propaganda trying to make it seem like their intentions were pure. War is also starvation and loss of access to clean drinking water and constant blackouts as supply chains get interrupted; it’s many people dependent on uninterrupted health care dying off because they can’t get their meds or do their testing; it’s r*pists and pedophiles and nazis and sociopaths having their way with others while society gets distracted; it’s your loved ones dying, not because they were fighting for what’s right, but because they were “acceptable losses”; it’s constant anguish that destroys lives for multiple generations as trauma gets handed down like an heirloom.

      Living through a war is about the most extreme form of hate I could imagine wishing upon someone. If someone who lived through one is willing to say “it’s time,” then I’m willing to listen. Otherwise, please excuse me if I don’t.

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        Its already a civil cold war. Delaying that conflict just lets the assholes grind everyone into dust and delays the suffering.

        It should NEVER have gotten to this point. But its too late to backtrack, the damage is already done and it needs to get worse before it gets better.

        Theres 8 billion people in the world, because we are still focused on growth based economics for so long.

        Time to change the equation

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
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          It isn’t hardly a civil war yet. And we can absolutely avoid one if we work on helping the working class without the bad stuff. If the Democrats were to commit to lowering the cost of living and publicly attack that problem the way the Republicans publicly attack minorities then it wouldn’t be an issue.