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      6 days ago

      That’s a completely different thing.

      Your Schufa Score is only relevant in very few cases, as long as it’s not super super bad. Due to data protection laws, the data they’re allowed to keep of you is very limited and thus the usefulness is much lower for businesses.

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        Schufa basically blackmails you into giving you their data: Not giving them access to ALL your data WILL result in the lowest possible score for your business, which has huge implications in regards to any credit.

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          No, they don’t. Businesses just send their negative data to the Schufa.

          I worked in that area for years, and unless you’re actively trying to tank your score, the Schufa is almost useless for all sides, and maybe businesses only use them to filter the really bad cases.

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            You have not read my comment at all, have you? Not giving them your business data reaults in the lowest score. That’s blackmail.

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                My brother in law has a business. That’s how I know this. But you’re just disagreeing out of principle, so you’re immune to facts. Do go on and talk out of your ass and be the ignorant person you strive to be.

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                  My brother in law has a business

                  …and you don’t see how that’s exactly what I wrote above? It’s a business, not a person. That’s a difference. Data protection does not refer to businesses.

                  Do go on and talk out of your ass and be the ignorant person you strive to be.

                  Again, I worked in the industry. I know how it works. But sure, 5 years in the engine room of risk management is obviously less informative than having a brother in law!

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                    Sure, it’s totally OK that a business like SchuFa has your data and if you happen to have a business it’s totally ok for them to blackmail you. It’s also totally ok that they don’t notify you if any business reports something negative to them about you. Schufa is totally ok and not shitty and predatory at all.

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        Informing it is not just a few cases. Not only does it impact things connected to a loan like Buying a house or a car, but also getting a mobile or landline subscription, a credit card and also more and more landlords expect you to show them a Schufaauszug proving a stable financial situation

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          Again, Schufa only really cares about negative data, they’re not allowed to use much more than that.

          That means, unless you have unpaid bills stacking up or relevant loans on your name, the Schufa knows hardly anything about you.

          I’ve worked in that business. I personally looked at hundreds of datasets and for most people, the Schufa knows only that they exist and where they live.

          There’s a lot to criticize about these organizations, but the Schufa is by far not as pervasive as some here like to imagine.

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            Well, I’ve got a schufa GDPR data abstract which contains a lot of positive data as well. How many credit cards at which Bank and so on.

            Also if schufa incorrectly adds negative entries to your dataset (e.g. due to two persons with the same name having the same date of birth), good luck getting the data straight.

            Or if a debt collector enters an unjustified entry…

            You obviously did but come in contact with any negative aspects of schufa while working with it, but these cases definitely exist, just check the results on Google…

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              Credit cards are - as the name implies - credit. That is, loans.

              That’s the same as having outstanding debt, and thus negative.

              The Schufa isn’t perfect, far from it, but don’t act like it’s the financial Stasi.