"There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I’m not going to talk about those."
  • sumguyonline@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 hours ago

    If someone put journalists email in every single email distro, and it stayed there past an upgrade so no one knew who did it, and every single internal memo was simply sent to a news reporter… That would be so damn funny. You know they got email distro’s with thousands of emails… Wouldn’t have been hard todo 2-3 yrs ago…

  • vala@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 hours ago

    I wonder if he realizes that’s because no one around him respects or likes him?

  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
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    5 hours ago

    There are a bunch of things that I think are value-destroying for me to talk about, so I’m not going to talk about those.

    Mmhmm.

  • M1nds3nd@lemmy.caEnglish
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    6 hours ago

    I’m reminded of this:

    The king himself rode a horse and shot arrows at a deer. However, the horse stumbled, causing him to fall off, but he was not injured. Looking around, he said, “Do not let the historians know about this.”

    — The Veritable Records of Taejong, Vol. 7, article 4

    • Tangent5280@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 hours ago

      I remember reading this - IIRC the kingdom had an independant archivists division that was not under the control of the king, for the sole reason that kings would try to fit the narrative to their benefit.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
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    6 hours ago

    Mark Zuckerberg did not address Meta’s $25 million settlement with Donald Trump that will see the company paying $22 million for the eventual establishment of the Trump Presidential Library.

    My biggest surprise is that trump wants to establish a presidential library. Probably has some plan to steal the money from there.

    I want to be able to be able to talk about stuff openly, but I am also trying to like, well, we’re trying to build stuff and create value in the world

    PFFFFFFFHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
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      6 hours ago

      ☑️ I don’t disagree to not disable the disability of Facebook to not share my conversations with 4721 untrusted data unpartners"

  • secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 hours ago

    I hate Facebook and that they will ban people, without notice, unless they record a video selfie from multiple angles, and then still sometimes permanently ban people even then, without a way to pay to prove the person is real or talk to someone or even get a reason for the ban. I also think Facebook is an arm of the government and is not really a company (quasi-governmental) and is basically a corporate rebranding of LifeLog and Zuckerberg probably got a 1600 on his SATs and was recruited to join the government while in high school.

    So that all being said, despite my hatred of Facebook, what he is saying isn’t that illogical.

    Let’s say Zuckerberg personally supports trans rights and thinks Trump is an idiot. He can’t say that in a meeting that will obviously have leaks. It would be “value-destroying.” Say what you want about Zuckerberg, but most people with enough intelligence don’t hate trans people because they understand science and how prenatal hormone conditions and epigenetic conditions means that sometimes internal senses of gender don’t match biological at birth sex. (Musk is the rare exception to this and it seems like his reaction comes from ego and anger about being estranged from his daughter and autism/lack of empathy, and so he’s a weird data point that doesn’t neatly fit if we take his reaction at face value.)

    So let’s say Zuckerberg wants to say “We support trans and gay people, we have to do this so Trump doesn’t go after us to remain profitable and not end up needing to decrease our head count, I hate Trump.” If he said that, someone would immediately leak it, Trump would go Ape Shit, and the company would lose value.

    It’s hard to know for certain if this is what he’s talking about, but if he is, this isn’t really something to fault him on.

    Facebook labeling linux as somehow evil, on the other hand, is a bizarre and shitty thing to do, so fuck Facebook and fuck this asshole who is letting linux be labeled as a cybersecurity threat. I also think Facebook doing this is because government, which has backdoor is Microsoft and Apple, doesn’t like linux and sees it growing in popularity and so I believe the government requested Facebook do this. I can’t fathom a social media company would do this for no reason on their own, it makes no sense, but if Facebook is Lifelog and always has been Lifelog and Zuckerberg gets his orders from someone else, then it would make sense that they implement policies regarding labeling linux as bad to try to keep their backdoors in as many user’s OSes as possible.

    • Kelsier@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      (not exactly a reply to you but a general reaction to all the news related to tech giants and Trump since the inauguration)

      My take on the Linux “ban” is that it probably was intended to be a soft shadow ban (but something went wrong) on free software and open source alternatives. These companies are at the top, they now have the money and the government, there is only one thing that can bring them down: the people. It’s as simple as just deactivating or deleting your facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and Google accounts (talking to those with an account). There was life before them, there was internet before them and there are alternatives (we are using one right now). Yes, there are a lot of benefits to using these platforms but what’s gonna be? Continue to fuel these companies by complaining about them and their CEOs and Trump, on their platforms, or leave and stop being part of the problem?

    • meeeeetch@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 hours ago

      He can’t say that in a meeting that will obviously have leaks. It would be “value-destroying.”

      What’s the point of having “Fuck You Money” if you don’t say “Fuck you” when it matters?

      • Kitathalla@lemy.lolEnglish
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        5 hours ago

        It’s all about who you can say it to. As much as elmo is probably trying to change it, right now the dystopian future of shadowrun hasn’t appeared, and the various governments are still the big dogs in the pound. See brazil for a recent example. Even apple, famously trying to thwart regulations, has eventually caved to the EU on the charger issue, as another example.

    • Enkrod@feddit.orgEnglish
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      8 hours ago

      Say what you want about Zuckerberg, but most people with enough intelligence don’t hate trans people

      Eh… intelligence is helpful, but in the end does not inoculate one against BS opinions. Musk is (supposedly) intelligent and toxic as hell, Richard Dawkins is (definitely) intelligent and a fucking TERF. Fuck, Jordan Peterson (for all his faults) is a demonstrative intelligent man… he’s just also an asshole and wrong about a multitude of things.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 hours ago

        I’ll do a reverse reductio ad Hitlerum and say that a lot of people who had substantial enough communication with Hitler considered him very intelligent. Just, well, unhinged, with an itch he couldn’t scratch, with murderous overvalued ideas … But misjudgements usually used to justify calling him a corporal limited in perception are big because a man shouldn’t have such power, not because the particular man who had was dumber than the rest.

  • secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    8 hours ago

    I hate Facebook and that they will ban people, without notice, unless they record a video selfie from multiple angles, and then still sometimes permanently ban people even then, without a way to pay to prove the person is real or talk to someone or even get a reason for the ban. I also think Facebook is an arm of the government and is not really a company (quasi-governmental) and is basically a corporate rebranding of LifeLog and Zuckerberg probably got a 1600 on his SATs and was recruited to join the government while in high school.

    So that all being said, despite my hatred of Facebook, what he is saying isn’t that illogical.

    Let’s say Zuckerberg personally supports trans rights and thinks Trump is an idiot. He can’t say that in a meeting that will obviously have leaks. It would be “value-destroying.” Say what you want about Zuckerberg, but most people with enough intelligence don’t hate trans people because they understand science and how prenatal hormone conditions and epigenetic conditions means that sometimes internal senses of gender don’t match biological at birth sex. (Musk is the rare exception to this and it seems like his reaction comes from ego and anger about being estranged from his daughter and autism/lack of empathy, and so he’s a weird data point that doesn’t neatly fit if we take his reaction at face value.)

    So let’s say Zuckerberg wants to say “We support trans and gay people, we have to do this so Trump doesn’t go after us to remain profitable and not end up needing to decrease our head count, I hate Trump.” If he said that, someone would immediately leak it, Trump would go Ape Shit, and the company would lose value.

    It’s hard to know for certain if this is what he’s talking about, but if he is, this isn’t really something to fault him on.

    Facebook labeling linux as somehow evil, on the other hand, is a bizarre and shitty thing to do, so fuck Facebook and fuck this asshole who is letting linux be labeled as a cybersecurity threat. I also think Facebook doing this is because government, which has backdoor is Microsoft and Apple, doesn’t like linux and sees it growing in popularity and so I believe the government requested Facebook do this. I can’t fathom a social media company would do this for no reason on their own, it makes no sense, but if Facebook is Lifelog and always has been Lifelog and Zuckerberg gets his orders from someone else, then it would make sense that they implement policies regarding labeling linux as bad to try to keep their backdoors in as many user’s OSes as possible.