• theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Socialism does not mean controlled by the state, that is just a state service, which can be capitalist.

    Socialism, and I cannot stress this enough, is not when the government does stuff

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      2 days ago

      Where did I say “government does stuff”? If a service is provided not for profit, funded by the community and is otherwise not privately owned, it’s socialist. It needs to be for-profit and/or privately owned to be capitalist.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        No, this type of thinking is anti-dialectical. Capitalism is a system where private property and commodity production is primary, and socialism is a system where collective ownership and planning is primary. This does not mean systems are partially Socialist and partially Capitalist, but that property relations are not uniform in most systems. I think reading Marx would be helpful for you.