• squid_slime@lemm.ee
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    I would never advocate for a super power, I want a classless society, this means no political class either.

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      “Political Class” isn’t really a thing, though, unless you’re replacing Class with Category, in which case “plumber” and “janitor” would be distinct classes. Administration and management are forms of labor, and are necessary in large-scale complex production, even Anarchists concede this.

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              I edited mine as well, I’ll copy and paste it here for coherence:

              I think you are confusing power with classes, and hierarchy with classes. A class is defined by its social relation to the Means of Production, a CEO can technically be proletarian if they are merely employed by the board and have no ownership. There is hierarchy, and unequal power, but the relation to Capital is fundamentally different as the M-C-M’ circuit does not directly funnel into their pockets like it would with Capitalists.

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                I guess my previous response about not supporting superpowers still holds but yes was a bit silly to say class.

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                  Gotcha! I admit, I was being nitpicky, but it’s a very important nuance when understanding how Socialism is built and how Class Antagonisms are reconciled. Beaurocratization is absolutely something to be avoided where possible, but administrative positions and managerial positions will always be present unless humanity can build a fully automated system it can fully trust, and that is technology for the far-future anyways if it ever does come into existence.

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                    We need a system to measure ego before allowing so much power which isn’t possible. The more I think about the vanguard and the dissolution of that apparatus the less plausible I find it. Then again I’m a trot and the forever revolution kind of takes care of that… I hope.

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      Well, we’ll see a lot of things tried.

      If you’ve heard of the “new Medieval” concept, we are approaching it.

      I like Star Wars as a really prophetic piece of culture (before Disney of course).

      So - there was the original trilogy, with the set of symbols that is normal for us today, but wasn’t when the first movie came out. In some sense it warned of what would happen for more than a decade after it.

      And there was the prequel trilogy, which it seems to be a fashion of calling stupid and bad, and Attack of the Clones is often called the worst movie of the prequels. Well, in implementation it may be not too good, but just like the original trilogy’s second movie is the deepest, the prequel trilogy’s second movie is the deepest. AotC too was prophetic, and in that prophecy we live right now.

      Now there’s that issue with chronology, where the order of events is different, but it can be anything. It’s symbolic art, not a chart. In real life events can happen in any order.

      So - Lucas wanted to make three more movies (discarding Disney crap), after RotJ chronologically. I don’t know what these would be, but logically AotC’s philosophy is between ESB’s and something which would look like that “new Medieval” I’ve remembered. BTW, it’s not a nice thing. Just inevitable in opinions of some people.

      LOL, a post out of nothing.

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        Never in my life have I seen someone call Star Wars prophetic before this moment.

        Don’t turn it into Harry Potter. SW has seen enough pain as it is.