Well it was fun while it lasted

That clarification is not making me calm

The factory helps make the goods though

Those names CANNOT be real

It took me way too long to notice the horror on the right

Neat. For me on mobile, the hover text takes precedence but they both work.

Right. Any hardware (that can connect to a network) can be a server, but people usually choose to make servers out of certain hardware that they find convenient for the task.

Yup. Plus rack mounts!

Unless you’re using a laptop as your server. But surely nobody would do that… *quickly hides server laptop behind my back*

Well, a server has to be running software that, you know, serves stuff. Listens and responds to network requests. They do usually also have different hardware-- no need for an integrated screen or keyboard!

Oh, they care now that it finally hurt them?

Whatever, at least maybe they’ll do the right thing for the wrong reasons next time.

I suppose that’s fair. Most people I know who do this do it for cis people as well though.

Yeah, therapy is not a viable solution for broad societal issues

I figured using “government” would result in some disconnect, but I’m not sure what else I would call a centralized authority responsible for making and carrying out societal decisions.

Anyways, it doesn’t matter if I’m part of the government. The issue remains.

Only if there’s a viable path to transition to that state, and it’s a stable state. It could also only be a local minimum. The effect you’re describing is real, but there’s no guarantee that it will lead to your proposed societal system, and furthermore there’s no guarantee that the effect is deterministic and will necessarily lead to the same solution unless it is the only solution.

Fair enough. I think you’re right to question these things; people have very strong opinions with hard lines here, but I don’t think there’s always solid reasoning for why some things that may seem like an obvious hard line are considered one.

Right, but I could not get a job unless it’s first been created by the government. What if the government doesn’t want to create a job that’s necessary? What about jobs that aren’t necessary, but are still desirable? If I have artistic skill, would I get an appropriate amount of work vouchers? Would skill factor in at all, or only time spent working? What is my invcentive to be efficient if skill is not a factor? If skill is a factor, who determines what “skill” is? Do we vote to make 10 furniture maker jobs and one “expert furniture maker” job with appropriate salaries?

You don’t have to answer all of those, I’m mostly just saying that this would result in a LOT of centralized control, which would have to be handled with a large amount of nuance, and that deciding these things by vote isn’t likely to work (see also, the most recent election).

All work would be paid for? Who decides what “work” is?

Mostly that the central planning authority gets to decide which work is meaningful enough to get paid for

Interesting. That could work. Feels a little draconian though.

I’ve been thinking of starting some sort of group to help with that goal-- would you be interested? I’m not sure what we could do, but I want to do something, you know? I figure the best impact I can have is to convince other people that I mostly agree with to adopt this approach, which is what I envision the group could help with.