We both know your statement about “number of military bases” is nonsensical and malicious. And you continue to ignore (and whitewash) russia’s genocidal imperialism in Europe.
Your replies (and attempts to pretend no one can see through them) prove my original statement that it is reasonable to have a zero tolerance policy towards tankie scum.
Don’t play dumb with me!
As far as i’m aware there aren’t any russian military bases in europe on the other hand there are hundreds americans.
You are denying that russians are occupying multiple regions of several European countries. Including banning local language/religion/culture, setting up mass torture interment camps, forced russification and settler colonialism.
This is not comparable to hosting a US base in your country (and you know it). You also ignore the fact that US bases are there to not let the russians do what I described above (which you also know).
You are also malicious about framing “russian propaganda”. Can you name me three famous russian propagandist with doing a web search?
Let’s hope one day you will be on the receiving end of your support for russian genocidal imperialism.
It’s reasonable to have a zero tolerance policy for tankie scum (including tankies who are trying to hide their views by JAQing).
In just this thread you openly supported russian genocidal imperialism:
As far as i’m aware there aren’t any russian military bases in europe on the other hand there are hundreds americans.
And your whole “both sides are the same” is clearly a ruse.
You almost certainly don’t speak russian or Chinese. You’ve never lived in russia or China and you have zero understanding of their worldview (with respect to russia specifically, I can say a strong majority of russians are genocidal imperialists) or their propaganda.
I am not sure if I read the correct thread, but I personally didn’t find your arguements convincing, although I think a full ban is excessive (at least initially).
Keep in mind that I do use local LLM (as an elaborate spell-checker) and I am a regular user of ML based video upscaleling (I am a fan of niche 80s/90s b-movies).
Forget the technical arguments for a seconds. And look at the social-economic component behind US-style VC groups, AI companies, and US technology companies in general (other companies are a separate discussion).
It is not unreasonable to believe that the people involved (especially the leadership) in the abovementioned organizations are deeply corrupt and largely incapable of honesty or even humanity [1]. It is a controversial take (by US standards) but not without precedent in the global context. In many countries, if you try and argue that some local oligarch is acting in good faith, people will assume you are trying (and failing) to practise a standup comedy routine.
If you do hold a critical attitude and don’t buy into tedious PR about “changing the world”, it is reasonable to assume that irrespective of the validity of “AI safety” as a technical concept, the actors involved would lie about it. And even the concept was valid, it is likely they would leverage it for PR while ignoring any actual academic concepts behind “AI safety” (if they do exist).
One could even argue that your arguementation approach is an example of provincialism, group-think and generally bad faith.
I am not saying you have to agree with me, I am more trying to show a different perspective.
[1] I can provide some of my favourite examples if you like, I don’t want to make this reply any longer.
Twitter seems to be in (early phases) of a terminal decline. Advertisers (in the US?) might try to suck up to Musk for political reasons but at the end of the day they want a return on marketing spend.
Getting government services and public institutions off Twitter is a good initiative. Albeit in many countries, Twitter never really had the same impact as in the US. Where I live, Telegram is the source for notifications, updates and news.
Some of Musk’s products already have a stigma attached to them. Considering Musk’s degeneracy seems to be accelerating, I will speculate this will only get worse.
The people who are not comfortable with Musk and his plutocracy have left or will eventually leave his companies. The rest don’t care and arguably their attitude is part of the problem as well.
It will likely take a rather significant change in social attitudes (in the US, but not only) towards oligarchs and corruption to make Musk and other oligarchs take responsibility for their actions and to send them to jail.
The above-mentioned point will take time and if anything it looks like it’s only going to get worse (global rise of right wing movements supporting corruption and oligarchs). The silver lining is that eventually such systems start to implode due to their internal contradictions. Our current institutions (political, regulatory, economic, social) are simply not suited to the complexity and global nature of modern business, the externalities inherent to the information age and the challenges of our time. “The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born; now is the time of monsters.” I don’t intend to defeatist, on the contrary, I am pointing out that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. It just might take a lot of time (and suffering) to get there.
Once again playing dumb. Lemmy is rife with this sort of tankie rhetoric, it is rather transparent.
As I said earlier, let’s hope one day you and your family will be on the recieving end of russian genocidal imperialism.