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  • Tetsuo@jlai.lutomemes@lemmy.worldInnovation
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    7 hours ago

    The way I see it, innovation is a product like anything else in the context of capitalism.

    Sam Altman wanted openAI to be non profit in its innovation but this was incompatible with capitalism that identifies it as a product with value.

    So basically capitalism tries to find monetary value in anything so it can be sold because the ultimate goal is money.

    Innovation is a byproduct of capitalism searching for new things to sell.

    (Disclaimer : I understand Sam Altman probably never genuinely wanted to innovate for free, this is just a posture)



  • Something I wonder is how would it even be possible for vendors to ignore PayPal is doing something fishy.

    You got a guy who’s job is to monitor who is getting their affiliate money. He sees PayPal collecting millions of affiliate money.

    The other players in this game (of affiliate link) knew very well that honey was doing something fishy. Why didn’t they contest it?

    Because they were doing the same kind of “last click” bullshit. If that was so unfair there would be a trial already. They all followed this stupid rule and the megalag video talks about it.

    The fact that Linus Tech Tips knew and we are supposed to believe the rest of the affiliate links mafia didn’t see a thing?



  • About that is it normal that the other videos are not released?

    I feel like he is losing the momentum he had with that video series and the more time he waits the more likely the gag orders or retaliation from PayPal.

    What if Megalag can’t release the next videos because a horde of lawyers is already on his back?

    Surprisingly I think Honey decided not to be able to sell user data (Ludwig sponsorship’s with honey was pushing this).

    Basically they were making so much money on affiliate links they probably thought it wasn’t worth risking to be caught for some privacy reason.


  • Technically, there is not necessarily a partnership in a situation where an affiliate link was stolen. Any user with the extension would see his affiliation given to PayPal.

    Also, I can’t help but think it will be very difficult to account for how much money was “redirected” by Honey. The creator would need data from YouTube that I don’t think is logged for much time. So you wouldn’t know who clicked and when and even after that I thing the vendor of the product would need to be involved also.

    Who knows what LegalEagle intends to do, they shouldn’t be too clear on their intent and keep their strategy secret. Maybe they hope for some kind of settlement because I think this is more damaging in term of PR than it will ever be in terms of fines. It’s like the recent case of Apple, they choosed to pay to expedite the process but never admitted guilt?

    Again I’m no lawyer let’s trust Legal Eagle and see where it goes. But PayPal will be a strong case for sure.




  • That’s the thing PayPal Honey is saying they are respecting the “last click” rule and in their eyes there is nothing illegal in that.

    Even if the creator as nothing to do with honey they are saying the last click is in honey just before checkout so they get the money. I understand this is a terrible excuse but it seems that’s the defense they will follow. Basically they are hiding behind that stupid last click rule and using it to justify it’s perfectly legal.

    Basically Honey says “we just strictly comply to a standard practice in affiliate links”.





  • Are they modifying URLs?

    As far as I know they steal cookies but don’t change the URL.

    Also, I think the bizarre market practice of “last click takes attribution” seems to be also common in EU.

    Unfortunately just because it’s shady doesn’t make it immediately illegal even here in EU.

    And the response from PayPal Honey shows they want to fight it in court. Which don’t think they would do if they thought it would have been considered highly illegal.

    They found a loophole and abused it to steal creators (and users).



  • I think it’s the wall of text that made your post look suspicious. So people downvoted it and now it doesn’t have any traction.

    I watched the vid and there isn’t really anything controversial in it but I will note that I couldn’t find any link to the related scientific report Anton mentions in his video.

    It’s an interesting topic I didn’t even know existed and even though YT titles are always clickbaity the content of the video is not really saying that this is an imminent threat but something to be cautious about.



  • I was searching a bit about the subject and I think it’s a fairly legitimate concern.

    Basically, life was always oriented one way on earth and some scientists are creating that mirror life.

    But also this kind of research is important because it would give us a better understanding on life origin and maybe extraterrestrial life.

    So at the very least I wouldn’t say it’s yet another conspiracy theory or dramatized news.

    As mentioned by ChatGPT (so be cautious with that assertion) even if we created this kind of mirror life it would probably die quickly without the “mirror nutrients” existing anywhere?

    I didn’t watch that video yet but Anton Petrov is a fairly reputable science commenter.

    Again, I only did a quick pre-research before diving more in the subject. Do your own research.


  • I would argue they don’t usually say it that way for Musk either so that’s why I asked what your point was.

    Also, I would appreciate not being downvoted because people assume I’m pro Musk. I’m not. I just try to understand why this sentence would trigger a comment like yours.

    Do you imply that this article’s sentence was that way to promote Musk? I just thought that since Musk is a prominent personality that is constantly on the news anyway there is nothing really surprising in presenting SpaceX as his business. Especially when it is his business.