Whatever, dude, have a good one

No it wasn’t. Overall points:

1. something is needed to radically halt US destruction of the world. I can’t think of anything which will achieve this short of a lost war. China is, afaik, the only potential enemy capable of inflicting this loss on the US.
2. i have no love but China (see my other comments in this thread), but objectively its existence has been less harmful to the rest of the world than that of the US.

Calling that a ‘tankie take’ is low effort shit which contributes nothing to the discussion. In any case, I’m pretty sure tankies are apologists for all the bad stuff China does, so not sure i fit into that category, babybus.

If that’s your takeaway, you’ve missed the point. Well done.

Haha, yes, i think so. Although it can’t be easy when it feels like the rest of the world (well, lemmy) is piling on to talk shit about your country

I’m not holding China up as some panacea, it’s very far from perfect (e.g. authoritarian security state, denial of Taiwanese independence, etc.), but i do think it does less net harm than the US. I would also suggest that the things we criticise China for are things which we would overlook in a country which was perceived as less of a threat to western dominance.

In any case, i was trying to say not that i want the US to be like China, but rather that i think the only way to prevent the US from killing us all is through a radical change of attitude, most likely caused by the loss of a major conflict.

I believe what dukeofdummies is saying, is that people with a financial cushion have fewer obstacles to acting on ethical principle, whereas your average person living pay check to pay check will be more cautious about whistleblowing because the consequences (loss of employment, vexatious lawsuits, blacklisting) will be felt more severely. Moreso if they have a family to support.

I consider myself to be ethical, but i live in a wage economy. If i see behaviour which needs to be reported, but i believe that the organisation/society will punish me for speaking out, i will wait until I’ve secured an alternative livelihood or am relatively safer before blowing the whistle.

Humanity is doomed because of America. Your anti-environmental capitalism and rapacious foreign policy have altered the world in an entirely negative way, and the only realistic scenario for the US to cut this shit out is by losing a war to a major competitor, such as China. China is hugely flawed itself, but is the less harmful option imo.

*Lemmy aside from that Linuxsucks weirdo