You wouldn’t get this from any other guy.

Not this community, because nobody follows the rules of it anymore and just treat it as the default/catch-all community, posting any old thing.

Probably on the grounds that, before joining Lemmy, they’d only ever encountered liberals who falsely claimed to be socialists, e.g. Bernie Sanders.

Even if you know it, they still worm their way into your head as surely as Barry Manilow’s TV commercial jingles.

To the extent that it has been exposed, yes, it is now publicly known, and to the extent that it hasn’t been, it’s not.

I pointed you to some of the seminal and most often cited works on the theory and practice and history of propaganda. Instead of telling us that you question the very validity of the term “propaganda” out of ignorance, how about engaging with the literature, or the Wikipedia entries about the literature, or the YouTube explainers about the literature?

Okay sure, they conspired, but again, it’s not a conspiracy 😂

It seems like you’re jumping through hoops to maintain some kind of Panglossian, high school civics worldview.

Michael Parenti, Dirty Truths:

Those who suffer from conspiracy phobia are fond of saying: “Do you actually think there’s a group of people sitting around in a room plotting things?” For some reason that image is assumed to be so patently absurd as to invite only disclaimers. But where else would people of power get together – on park benches or carousels? Indeed, they meet in rooms: corporate boardrooms, Pentagon command rooms, at the Bohemian Grove, in the choice dining rooms at the best restaurants, resorts, hotels, and estates, in the many conference rooms at the White House, the NSA, the CIA, or wherever. And, yes, they consciously plot – though they call it “planning” and “strategizing” – and they do so in great secrecy, often resisting all efforts at public disclosure. No one confabulates and plans more than political and corporate elites and their hired specialists. To make the world safe for those who own it, politically active elements of the owning class have created a national security state that expends billions of dollars and enlists the efforts of vast numbers of people.

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Doubling down on emotional Wojak framing I see.

I swear a couple of people are here to libsplain us in their confident ignorance.

Rhetorical exchange between two people is one thing, mass persuasion is quite another, though they are not entirely unrelated.

The profit motive certainly is a major aspect, maybe even the largest, but there’s more going on than just that. For instance, the US military-intelligence-industrial complex gets directly & indirectly involved, and this is well documented.

So no Luigi movie for us is what you’re saying 😞

In some languages “advertising” and “propaganda” are the same word, and not for nothing. Bernays worked in both advertising and politics. It’s the same set of tools whether its to sell cigarettes or war.

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we are logical chad and they are emotional wojak amirite

Edward Bernays wrote the book on it, as well as Walter Lippman[1]. And subsequently so have Michael Parenti[1][2] and Noam Chomsky[1].

• Short YouTube intro: Noam Chomsky: The five filters of the mass media machine
• Somewhat longer one: You’re Not Immune To Propaganda

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–entertainment_complex
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copaganda

It’s six hours later, and you’ve neither edited your post nor rented a Rug Doctor.

It is higher now than ever according to experts, but our government and our corporate media prefer not to prioritize the issue.

Oligarchs “liking” countries is the wrong framing in the first place, but probably a lot of the inputs for Tesla commodity production come from China.

Every once in a great while I’ll suddenly awaken to violent, parched coughing from dehydration. It’s no fun at all, so I try not to go to sleep thirsty.

No, just the first page of the modlog.