it’s like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won’t do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What’s the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That’s unfriendly to say the least.

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    I don’t even think the majority of American conservatives are on board with most of what’s happening anymore. Some Like almost half are, but they’re especially stupid and usually ideologically oriented to Trump rather than to the traditional brand of US conservatism.

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      The traditional conservatives are suspiciously quiet right now, so I count them as fully complicit.

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        To be fair to them though, they did just get comprehensively voted out from everywhere. They don’t have a single majority to make any difference to anything. If I were them I’d be sitting back with a large bowl of popcorn going “yal’l voted for this, or at least didn’t vote against it, hope you enjoy getting the full force of this orange idiot right in the face”. But from the headlines I’ve read it would appear they’ve had a few things to say about Fart’s latest hot smelly air.

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          They’d still rather stay silent than break with Trump and ally with leftists. To be really fair, they deserve no fucking credit whatsoever.

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          That is factually untrue. They did not get voted out everywhere and it is somewhat silly to say so.

          House: R- 218, D- 215 Senate: R- 53, D- 47

          That is what I call a fair fight.

          Your position is indefensible.

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            I did a bit of maths at school and I know 218>215, and 53>47.

            That is what I call a minority in both places. If all D get together and say “no”, and all R get together and say “yes”, then where a simple majority is required it’ll be an R victory. Any D victory will need some Rs to either swing (and likely get fired), or abstain. Of course if a 2/3 majority is needed for something then R will need some D support to get it through.

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              Minority parties have a great deal of procedural power and with such a narrow minority, even a few defections from the other party can swing a vote.

              Politics is theater and it is breathtakingly stupid to just lay down and let them do whatever they want without using the power at their disposal.

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      they’re especially stupid

      You know, I always try to avoid thinking that people with different opinions to mine are “stupid”, but it’s getting more and more difficult to credit republicans with being reasonable.