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Pardon me, but, Mr Rose, can you please tell me… What fucking better treatments?
My brother is T1D and he’s been like that since his teens. Literally the only way for him to continue to live, at all, is to take insulin.
It’s times like this that make me thankful I don’t live in the USA.
But seriously, if anyone knows of a “better” treatment for type 1 diabetes, I’m all ears. I’ve been looking for something for my brother for years, and I’ve come up with jack shit.
This is horrfying. Shame on the atlantic for publishing it.
Capitalism fixes everything, duh. Why didn’t I realize. I’m so dumb. It’s science. Apply capitalism, and bam, nuclear energy.
There’s plenty of countries with cheap insulin, and people there are fine because other treatments for diabetes are cheaper too.
Bullshit take. Some people ONLY respond to insulin. Fuck whoever wrote this.
I apologize if this sounds pedantic, but what if the writer was forced to write it to keep his job along with his family’s access to food, shelter, and healthcare? So rather than punch down, I say punch up. I say fuck the owners who ultimately signed off on the article and potentially demanded it in the first place. (The Atlantic is owned by Emerson Collective which is owned by billionaire Laurene Jobs. )
The author is a senior resident at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. Writing isn’t even his profession. He’s a doctor.
what if the writer was forced to write it to keep his job along with his family’s access to food, shelter, and healthcare?
You cant compare aexistential harm with a direct and tangible one staring you in the face. If the author is in dire straits and writing under duress, let him voice that in his own defense when he is called to account. But preemptively forgiving bad behavior on a remote “maybe” is a recipe for the end of civilization.
This was not written by some reach asshole. This was written by someone on the payroll of some rich asshole.
Yes! Without shared ownership over the companies we work at, we have no ownership over how our labor is used. This is why a worker owned economy is such a critical part of Marxism and why Social democracy’s attempt to achieve socialist goals through higher taxes and labor rights isn’t enough (a golden cage is still a cage.) The heart of socialism is giving people a shared ownership over their labor which means they get a voice and vote on how their labor will be used
we have no ownership over how our labor is used
You can just not work for someone like that
Have you read the article? It’s about how type 2 patients, for whom diabetes isn’t the best option and who make up the majority of diabetes patients could end up having to use insulin because it’s cheaper.
“In place of capping the out-of-pocket cost of just insulin, lawmakers should cap the out-of-pocket cost of all diabetes medications.”
Sounds like a shit title and introduction then.
A lot of type two patients need to manage their diets better. You wouldn’t believe the number of people who just keep eating like shit.
for whom diabetes isn’t the best option and who make up the …
I guess you meant to say “insulin is not the best option”? Because diabetes seems like a shit option all around.
Shhh, now come and sweep yourself under that nice little carpet.
Better than having nothing which is the current situation.
I think the point is that insurances might not pay for the better options as willingly as they do now if there’s a cheaper option. But I understand too little of the US healthcare system to be completely sure.
The problems aren’t the treatments, the problems are still the assholes pricing the treatments that exacerbate issues with treatment affordability and selection.
Guys, very seriously after the whole covid scam, do you still believe in this kind of stuff? The covid was biggest wealth-transfer to rich class in whole history.
COVID is real. All crisis serves as a way to force the less wealthy of the Petite Bourgeoisie to sell off their Capital to the Haute Bourgeoisie, and in this manner furthers monopolization.
Michael Rose
What’s worse - taking diabetes medication that’s somewhat outdated, or taking no diabetes medication at all?
I’m not a doctor, but I bet I know the answer.
Also most of those newer treatments treat either type 2 (diet / metabolism related) or are an adjunct therapy for a type 1 (genetic) who has also developed insulin resistance over time. With or without insulin resistance a type 1 isn’t making any insulin in their pancreas at ALL and is going to need to take manufactured insulin, whether by a syringe or with an artificial pancreas that needs to be filled with an insulin cartridge. For them a metabolism altering medication isn’t going to make their pancreas start producing insulin again, it’s just going to help their cells respond better to the insulin they still have to inject.
People have gotten so used to conceptualizing diabetes as a “fat people” disease that they completely ignore the type 1 genetic diabetics who are actually the main users of insulin. Oh and most children with diabetes have type 1 (since it’s genetic) vs type 2 which can be managed with the fancier newer drugs is the “fat people” / diet related type, and most people don’t get that until they’re at least middle aged and have been eating garbage for decades. When people talk about insulin they act like they’re talking about adults who made a choice when most of your exclusively insulin dependent diabetics are gonna be type 1s who got it from genetics and have had it since childhood.
We should absolutely be caring about people regardless of these moralistic fat shaming arguments but the kind of people saying it’s not a big deal that a month of insulin costs $500 are also usually the same people crying “think of the children!” and the raw hypocrisy of that just drives me fucking bonkers.
Yes. Thank you. I have T1, and with T2 being ~20 times as common, I don’t think the difference will ever be understood by the public. I wish it would get a different name, though that wouldn’t lower the price of insulin, right.
same here. If type 1’s dont take insulin they die, period. Symptom onset is fast and its not a pleasant or fast death. All the type1s rationing insulin are cooking their organs and in some stage of the process of dying, and they feel it happening. The only option is to not eat any food at all and hope you can make the process of dying stretch out a bit. But as soon as you eat, the food turns to glucose (sugar) in the blood, your body cant use that sugar without insulin and it acidifies in your blood and cooks you.
YoU jUsT hAvE To WaTcH yOuR DiEt
-them probably
yOu juSt hAve To cuT swEetS, maYBe tRY tHe CArniVorE DieT
- them actually
Other times they’ll just advise you to use honey, because they think that’s not sugar.
take so hot
hot hot take
take so hot you fry an eggHmm, who is this Rose fellow?
Michael Rose is a senior resident in internal medicine and pediatrics at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.
The only person The Atlantic could find to peddle this shit isn’t even allowed to practice medicine without supervision? lmao
Not even an endocrine doctor. IM knows diabetic medicine because they happen to run into it a fair amount, along with a lot of other diseases from a lot of other body systems like kidney disease or COPD, but they’re not nephrologists or pulmonologists either.
credit to michael rose, they want all diabetes medications to be cheaper or free.
That’s fair! It’s entirely possible they got rolled by The Atlantic and didn’t know what the editors were going to do to the piece. But like, at the same time maybe question why a national publication would need someone who isn’t able to practice on their own to do an opinion piece about something highly politicized…
another comment pointed out elsewhere that the titles are rarely made by the writer, so im inclined to believe that the atlantic recieved this piece and wanted to slant it for those who just read the headline, yeah.
Any society which holds “your money or your life” as a valid argument is not one which should exist.
This only makes sense if the new treatments are cheaper or free than insulin. Which I’d bet a body part they aren’t.
Ozempic is expensive af. Even more so than insulin.
If diabetics get insulin for free they’d become dependent and require it for the rest of their lives. It’s safer to just let them die or leave them homeless because they have to spend all their money on it.
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