When I am allowed to choose to spend my time working twoards the actual benefit of society for a fair wage call me.
Until then I’m not doing any of this voluntarily, it’s against my will. Like a slave
It’s a constant fight for survival, we’ve made the horrible mistake of modeling our systems off of the cruel fuedal hierarchies of the past and the cruel uncaring themes of nature. These are things a fair civil society is supposed to oppose and ours is failing.
Sorry if I can’t delude myself into being a happy slave for some boomer on the internet lol
“Working towards the actual benefit of society” is subjective and I’m not sure what your definition is.
In Western Australia where I live there are several gargantuan projects under construction to use solar to crack hydrogen out of water for export to south east asia. 1,000s of construction jobs in these projects. A labourer without a trade qualification would probably earn at least 2x the average Australian full time wage doing that. A qualified trades person with experience in this type of project might earn 2.5 or even 3x average wage.
I volunteer as the treasurer for a local 18 bed refuge for teenagers without a safe place to live. They employ about a dozen social workers for the in-house and outreach programs. All of these people are earning close to the average full time wage.
My own job as an accountant is less directly “benefit of society” but I do find it satisfying to help people navigate complex situations.
I think most people are able to choose to spend their time working towards the actual benefit of society for a fair wage.
I’ve never been to the US but I’m certain that’s not true.
I’m not trying to be a snarky online asshole telling you you’re wrong about everything. I’m certain that I’ve felt the way you are in the past. I do genuinely wish you well.
I guess I was just trying to give you some hope for the future by challenging your feeling of hopelessness.
The difference is in your example the majority of your labor benefits you.
Currently most working people pay off the cost that their existence incurs before age 40. But most people won’t get to retire.
Every year the ratio of work/life keeps getting shifter further away from life. And pretending like Capitalism does us any favors is just ignoring the more practical solutions at this point.
I’m not sure how to phrase this without sounding like a condescending jerk, but that’s not my intention.
The thing is, a job that requires as little from you as possible while still paying the bills is guaranteed to be unfulfilling.
There is no fulfilling job in this system
Having a gun put to your head and being told to work or die is not fulfilling in any way. It’s a hostage situation. It’s slavery.
That’s hyperbolic.
When I am allowed to choose to spend my time working twoards the actual benefit of society for a fair wage call me.
Until then I’m not doing any of this voluntarily, it’s against my will. Like a slave
It’s a constant fight for survival, we’ve made the horrible mistake of modeling our systems off of the cruel fuedal hierarchies of the past and the cruel uncaring themes of nature. These are things a fair civil society is supposed to oppose and ours is failing.
Sorry if I can’t delude myself into being a happy slave for some boomer on the internet lol
“Working towards the actual benefit of society” is subjective and I’m not sure what your definition is.
In Western Australia where I live there are several gargantuan projects under construction to use solar to crack hydrogen out of water for export to south east asia. 1,000s of construction jobs in these projects. A labourer without a trade qualification would probably earn at least 2x the average Australian full time wage doing that. A qualified trades person with experience in this type of project might earn 2.5 or even 3x average wage.
I volunteer as the treasurer for a local 18 bed refuge for teenagers without a safe place to live. They employ about a dozen social workers for the in-house and outreach programs. All of these people are earning close to the average full time wage.
My own job as an accountant is less directly “benefit of society” but I do find it satisfying to help people navigate complex situations.
I think most people are able to choose to spend their time working towards the actual benefit of society for a fair wage.
Oh well I live in the US where the less fortunate are put in prison and forced to be slaves.
I’ve never been to the US but I’m certain that’s not true.
I’m not trying to be a snarky online asshole telling you you’re wrong about everything. I’m certain that I’ve felt the way you are in the past. I do genuinely wish you well.
I guess I was just trying to give you some hope for the future by challenging your feeling of hopelessness.
If capitalism didn’t exist and we just had a more archaic society, it would almost invariably be agrarian and you’d need to work for food or also die.
It’s not largely different.
The difference is in your example the majority of your labor benefits you.
Currently most working people pay off the cost that their existence incurs before age 40. But most people won’t get to retire.
Every year the ratio of work/life keeps getting shifter further away from life. And pretending like Capitalism does us any favors is just ignoring the more practical solutions at this point.