• Etterra@discuss.online
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    Well thank gawd they’re here to make sure the ruling oligarchs don’t feel the slightest shred of the anxiety that us poors feel 24 hours a day.

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      Knowing the average redditor, they probably had like 6900 posts about Luigi (or every of those banned words) every hour for weeks.

      I don’t blame the mods for dealing that way with karma-addicted redditards.

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    Turns out hating on conservatists and praising ceo killers is too much of a popular opinion for that sub, is that what they want to say?

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      That part is the exact same and worse here. Lemmy is not really decrentralized, it’s just fractured. Each community still have just one “big one” by design.

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        Difference between Reddit and Lemmy is that you can legit say “I’ll start my own Lemmy, with blackjack and hookers” and expect it to make an impact.

        Whereas with Reddit, whatever Spez says is law, even if it’s as consistent as bird shit on a car windscreen.

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          “I’ll start my own Lemmy, with blackjack and hookers” and it will have the same systemic structure that perpetuates underhanded unaccountable shadow moderation and the concentration of power into the hand of a few individuals who just happened to be at the right place at the right time and cannot realistically be avoided or dislodged until an absolutely monumental fuckup on their part that it can’t be ignored.

          It’s becoming clear that Lemmy is not in any way the safe haven it has been marketed as. And this NFT rigamarole certainly isn’t going to be that either.

          Anything that doesn’t put the ENTIRE content discovery engine fully in the hands of the users and that doesn’t make content moderation a crowdsourced-only transparent, auditable endeavor is going to reproduce l’ancien régime.

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            Anything that doesn’t put the ENTIRE content discovery engine fully in the hands of the users and that doesn’t make content moderation a crowdsourced-only transparent, auditable endeavor is going to reproduce l’ancien régime.

            Aren’t you just describing Lemmy?

            Content discovery is fully in the hands of the users, and content moderation is both crowd-sourced and transparent.

            Upvotes, downvotes, and reports are all forms of crowd sourced moderation. The modlog is transparent and auditable. What are you on about?

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            Do you know how shit Lemmy could be if some hexbear tankies could come into your community and brigade it until they’ve banned half the users?

            Or the flipside, it’s a process that involves weeks of voting and you’ve got CP plastered all over the front page while you wait to reach enough votes to trigger its removal.

            Moderators exist to fill a role, that is the need for immediate action. Communities should be involved in decision making around rules, but you need people on hand to take responsibility and keep shit running. The benefit of Lemmy is that if you don’t like it, you can go create your own instance or community, without being subjected to a singular owner; that’s the issue it was solving, not your terrible one.

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            Lemmy is not in any way the safe haven it has been marketed as.

            Marketed? Lemmy is not a company and there is no marketing department. Generally, what you know about Lemmy is word of mouth from people who used it before you. No one controls the narrative in the end.

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            Instances are moderated by their moderators. Other instances that would rather not associate with a different instance can withdraw federation. I think the system works fine.

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    Censorship disguised as moderation. This is exactly what killed reddit. You can’t have a discussion over there without getting banned, it’s just individual echo chambers who all censor and ban each other

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        It’s just a list of nouns and proper nouns. Depending on what your post is, it could be a very unpopular opinion! Censoring words is why I won’t ever go back to Reddit…

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          Don’t get me wrong, banning words is stupid and gives us the Scunthorpe problem and I am very glad that we have an alternative to Reddit because its just a cesspit.

          The subreddit “r/unpopularOpinions” was not full of unpopular opinions, and the words banned were obviously popular opinions because everyone talked about them until the API change and the regime cracked down.

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          I don’t know about that. People post obviously popular opinions repeatedly if they aren’t banned.

          Unpopular opinion, but I dislike the top ten Christmas songs

          Yeah, no shit. Even though they are the “top ten”.

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      Hate to break it to you but reddit isn’t dead.

      I still go on reddit. In a lot of ways it’s a lot worse than it used to be. It’s way more corporate. Huge portions of the site seem sanitized, often in obvious and eyeroll inducing ways. There’s also a lot less content in general. The content that does exist is lower effort, and way more repetitive.

      However in some ways it’s genuinely better. The discourse is a lot less toxic than it used to be. A lot of genuine cruelty wrapped in virtue signaling that defined the site from 2018 to 2022 is either gone or greatly diminished. It’s also slightly less of an echo chamber.

      I think what happened is that after the mobile apocalypse, a lot of the power users left the platform. While these people contributed a lot to the site, they were also extremely toxic people with an even more warped worldview.

      The mods are a reflection of this. They are more corporate, which leads to a lot of censorship like this. However it also means that scrolling is quite a bit more pleasant.

      Overall I spend more time on Reddit than Lemmy. There’s very little content here once you filter out all the outrage bait.

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      Or, hear me out, maybe people were tied of way too many posts in the community being about recent politics, so moderators took action on that?

      It’s not a good look to be broadly banning those words, but it seems to me like there’s a reasonable and obvious expansion.

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        that’s easily dissuaded by no re-posts or reddits algorithm burying those. The problem was more likely because they were popular and highly engaged so they had to step in. Fucking “spez” is in there and you still feel the need to play devil’s advocate?

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    Damnit. I just joined this site to try and get away from Reddit mods who are power hungry.

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      It’s a screenshot of Reddit not Lemmy.

      But you are on .ml, which is one of the worst instances especially if you hate power hungry mods - also avoid .world.

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        I ditched .world because of their euro-centric attitude on free speech regarding, specifically, jury nullification. Which is, as I pointed out, the critical final tool for us citizens to try and legally change unjust laws and/or unjust applications of it. It’s also older than the US, and the government hates it when anyone remembers it exists. To the point that lawyers are forbidden from mentioning it to juries in court. Because the ruling elite fear anything that gives the citizens the slightest shred of hope that we could upset their oppressive system. So duck them euros and their censorship bullshit.

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        I’m new to all this so you’re speaking French to me lmao. I feel like an old person. “Back in my day we just had .com .org and .net!”

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          .ml isn’t all that bad. I see a lot of whinging on about being banned “over nothing”, but the thing about Lemmy is removed comments are logged. More often than not, they’re lying.

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          I’d suggest “nothing” for the time being.

          There are a lot of different people around here, and different people get angry about different things. So there’s always going to be a lot of different bad things said about a large instance like lemmy.world. But whether or not those things are actually a real problem is for you to decide.

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      “I believe Brian Thompson was actually a pretty cool guy”

      DISCLAIMER: I in no way actually think this. This is just an example of one of those banned subjects being used correctly in that sub.