Honestly, I will never wrap my head around how people can happily bring infants on any flight where you can expect people to try and sleep, it’s incredibly lucky if they don’t spend some of it screaming their heads off—I would be mortified if my choices were preventing hundreds of people from sleeping. But I’m not going to rant too hard about that.

Why on earth hasn’t any airline started marketing adult-only flights?

It seems like a complete no brainer to me, I would choose it every time and pay extra for it.

Disclaimer: I may or may not be on a 36h day with only an hour of sleep right now

  • vext01@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 months ago

    Parents are mortified when their kids are screaming on a flight. They didn’t want this either.

    A good pair of earplugs (e.g. loop) can help tremendously.

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      7 months ago

      e.g. loop

      Or a pair of non-meme plugs that’s designed to actually block all noise. Mack’s Ultra Soft are quite excellent.

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      7 months ago

      Well kinda said I wasn’t looking to rant about this part, but okay:

      When the child is two seats over, my loops are not helping. When another child is running up and down the aisle every 20 mins, ear plugs aren’t the solution either.

      I simply would not choose a flight where the majority of people would be trying to sleep if I were a parent. I would not want to put myself in a situation where it could even happen, no one wants to be mortified and on a long flight it approaches certainty.

      A screaming child on a 4h middle-of-the-day flight is annoying but bearable. Screaming children on a double-digit hour overnight flight ruins many people’s days.

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        13 days ago

        It is a good thing you were never a kid annoying everyone around you. That would be embarrassing for you.

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    7 months ago

    Disclaimer: I may or may not be on a 36h day with only an hour of sleep right now

    Lemme guess: kids?

    Also to answer your question https://www.alternativeairlines.com/child-free-flights . No child-free flights, but child-free zones on flights.

    All the people here talking about “just use headphones with ANC” haven’t been a seat or two away from a crying child. It’s not the child’s fault and often not that of the parents (they have to travel too), but having adults-only flights would be amazing. I’d pay extra too to be on a long-haul flight without kids. Some adults do act like kids too, but it’s not possible to ban them.

    And to the people acting mortified and all high and mighty: there are adults only places. Are you going to get offended about those too? The proposal isn’t to ban kids from all flights. It’s to offer some flights without kids.

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    7 months ago

    I have kids and when I took them on trips when they were little, I would book the most direct option. I didn’t consider the option where I could inconvenience the most entitled people.

    I’ll never get why people get so worked up by babies crying on airplanes. The kids parents are just trying to get somewhere, same as everyone else. The plane is not your bedroom, or office, theater, or library. You know what you’re getting into when you board. You’re going to be in close quarters with strangers. Some of them might be kids that cry, some might be so old or weak that they have trouble stuffing their oversized carry on into the overhead bin. The difference is the weak person could have chosen to check the bag. Can you tell what my flying pet annoyance is? You just never know what you’re gonna get.

    Like someone already said, the airlines don’t do it bc there’s no money in it.

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      If you’re an adult who doesn’t have or don’t work around children it’s hard to overstate how irritating they are. The noise, lack of self-awareness, the energy, the stickiness, and you have to censor yourself around them. Additionally, they’re way harder to reason with (if they even can communicate) and parents are notoriously shitty and self-righteous. Finally adults have consequences. If an adult screams their head off, runs up and down the aisles, or hit people around them then flight attendants can do something

      You also act like that child HAS to be on that plane. You can drive, you could leave the kid with someone else, you could take a train, a bus, or you could just not go. We know planes specifically are really uncomfortable for babies because of the pressure. You chose to have a kid presumably knowing that you’d be making sacrifices for them. Maybe one of those sacrifices should be flying until they’re old enough to behave

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        7 months ago

        I don’t mind kids on planes. They can be loud or obnoxious but adults can be worse, so whatever. If you have such a problem, you can drive, take a train or just not go, you know?

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          7 months ago

          I’m an adult with adult responsibilities and obligations. Occasionally I do have to be on a plane. That child’s presence is almost certainly not required somewhere with such urgency that they simply must be on a plane. Also I can and do behave myself so I don’t need to be justified. Babies usually can’t and don’t, which is why we’re having this conversation in the first place

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            7 months ago

            We can leave the child’s travel urgency and behaviour out of this, I think. Kids don’t decide to travel on a plane, and they behave how they do. This is really about the parents. They are the ones taking their children on planes. So, they are adults with responsibilities and obligations which includes caring for their children and usually that means bringing them with them on planes.

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            7 months ago

            We need a travel justification board so only truly necessary air travel is authorized and approved. Nein. No babiez on ze plane

            Consider it the price you pay for travel freedom.