• peregrin5@lemm.ee
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    5 days ago

    When will leftists face the fact that Bernie simply wasn’t popular enough to win not one but two primaries?

    Love Luigi, (may he live forever), but this delusion around Bernie is hilarious.

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      The DNC fucked over Sanders. All of the super delegates were on Hillary’s side before the DNC even had its first primary making it seem like Bernie was not a real choice, while the media downplayed him constantly (the billionaire owned media? shocked pikachu face). This was such clear bullshit that the DNC even changed their rules in 2018 to make it so the super delegates cant vote on the first primary ballet, but I believe its because it doesnt make a lick of difference either way. The people who run the country would never allow us to move in a direction of fixing the problems of unregulated capitalism.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/25/democrats-rules-superdelegates-sanders

      https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/25/politics/democrats-superdelegates-voting-changes/index.html

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        I don’t know why you’re surprised or confused about this. Bernie was an independent and not even a member of the DNC until just before the election.

        He was an unknown. Hillary has been a part of the party for decades. That’s like complaining that the DNC didn’t throw full support behind a Green party candidate that switched just before the election. That’s not bullshit. That’s just how politics works. Bernie didn’t lay the foundation of trust needed to get the DNC to back him.

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          Your argument was that he wasn’t popular enough, my argument is that he never stood a chance In the DNCs primary regardless of popularity with the voters. Now if you wanna say Bernie couldn’t win against the entrenched DNC superdelegates, then yeah obviously. But if you wanna say he couldn’t win the popular vote in the election, well I’d love to show you Hilary, someone even diehard DNC voters didn’t give a shit about to the extent that she lost to an orange toddler, and that’s who the DNC went with.

          As an aside the reason Bernie losing pisses people off so much is he is the only candidate for president that has existed in decades that actually ran on a platform of representing the people, with a proven track record of being on the side of the people, and not just pretending to while gobbling billionaire dick.

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            Two things can be true. He was both not popular enough and didn’t lay the foundation to succeed within the DNC.

            Even three things can be true. The two above and Hillary was also unpopular outside of the Democrat party. But she was still popular enough to win the primary.

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      5 days ago

      When will leftists face the fact that Bernie simply wasn’t popular enough to win not one but two primaries?

      That doesn’t mean that Bernie didn’t represent a rising appetite for change in the system, which is what this meme is pointing at.

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      You do know the meme doesn’t say “Bernie would have won” or anything like it, yes?

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        We all know you lefties think Bernie was “plotted against” by the DNC or some other victim mentality bullshit you guys love so much. Lmao.

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      Leaving aside the issue of whether or not he legitimately lost those primaries (which is certainly debatable at least in 2016), I think he would have not been a very effective president because both parties in congress and the judiciary would have done everything in their power to oppose any social welfare policies he might have tried to get implemented.

      Obviously, he would have been better than Trump, but I do not think he would have achieved much. In fact, I think he would have achieved less than Carter.

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        I agree with your point to everyone working against him. Btw I love Bernie and voted for him both times. But I’m just tired of leftists shooting themselves (and all of the rest of us) in the foot by spreading anti-Democrat propaganda during and between every election and being all shocked Pikachu when literal billionaires take over the government as a result.

        It’s usually privileged white leftists who think their political puritanism is justified.

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      The Democratic Party primary doesn’t choose the President, though. The electoral college does. At least one analysis of the polls concluded that Sanders could have won the EC.