Tangentially related:
- All You Need is Kill by Hiroshi Sakurazaka
- Through the Flash in Friday Black by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah
I am shocked no one mentioned the possibility of nuclear warfare every day. If everything resets, what’s stopping a few people from just nuking the world on a daily basis. One country does it first, the next day the other country does it back in retaliation. The entire world may just suffer horrific deaths every single day. Even if it only happened once, the trauma of living after having experienced it once would be enough to ruin peoples mental health (I guess you could say it would nuke their mental health). I cannot imagine people finding peace and living freely. I imagine it would be endless suffering.
I don’t see how any government functions after the first few days. By that time, everyone knows they’re looping. So why go work? Maybe a small percent will but a vast majority of people will just do their own thing. No need to worry about job security when you’ll wake up tomorrow with the same amount of money.
Personally, I think the world would probably be very pleasant if we all looped. No one would be able to take anything from you, since you’d get it right back the next day. Might just be boring after a couple thousand loops, as no new movies, games or news would be able to be produced.
Definitely read the Friday Black book I linked above, it touches this briefly.
I think after the first few initial times it happens, it just becomes a bit boring after a while and nuke-inclined leople will shift their focus to other things.
As for the trauma, well, time heals all
Property would lose all meaning, since everything just resets anyways. Experiences are the only thing that would have value. Some property lets you have experiences, but like… just steal it. What does the owner care? No matter what you do to it, it’ll be there again tomorrow in perfect condition, and both they and you have unlimited time to use it.
Are you supporting pirating media?
That sounds like you are supporting pirating media…
A lot of answers seem to skip over that people wouldn’t know if the repeat is forever. So many people might try to figure out how to make it stop. Others might not want it to stop… that could get interesting.
What I find interesting is that potentially the time loop wouldn’t even be discovered immediately. Most people would wake up in the morning and head to work as normal. There wouldn’t really be an obvious sign we’re in a Groundhog Day, since the usual indicator of that in fiction is that other people are doing the same thing they did yesterday. Which they won’t be, if everyone is experiencing it.
There would be sparse stories worldwide initially of people claiming that it’s the same day as yesterday. Your phone might still have yesterday’s date, which most will attribute to a global software glitch. Maybe some investigation is done, hardware that tracks the skies shows the earth in the same position. But final, global, acceptance would filter down slowly, since you’d only be getting news for one day via technological means, and the only up to date information you’d reliably get is direct communication. Unless of course the technology still works - phone calls etc, wouldn’t just immediately be unavailable.
If you lived remotely, off grid, or alone, how would you even know unless you started to notice actual physical repetition. Rain starting at the same time every day etc. It’s genuinely fascinating.
Wouldn’t you notice that the coke you drunk yesterday is still in the fridge, and the trash you emptied last night is back in the kitchen?
Potentially, but I can’t imagine your first thought would be “I must be reliving the same day” rather than “I could have sworn I took the trash out yesterday”.
I’d definitely be questioning my sanity before the third law of thermodynamics.
I think it would be the people who died or gave birth that day who would be pretty conclusive and immediate evidence for people, but that wouldn’t apply for those who are disconnected from the rest of the world.
Hahaha, very true
That’s a interesting angle – I think eventually (past the 20 year mark) there would be a very popular and concerted effort into researching how to make it stop.
If everyone resets, and their memory is retained, then perhaps less would change than you’d expect. For example, if you wanted to organise an event for the following day (ie today, but again), then it’s still possible to plan. In which case, many things about life actually stay the same. Only the physicality of things actually change. For people not already suffering, it’s actually a great mechanism for freedom, since the shackles of money, food, health etc are no longer a concern.
Unless you loop on the last day of the worst pain of cancer.
The key difference in planning would be lack of physical object storage. No notes would be retained.
Yeah, as I say, for those not already suffering.
Those that were suffering, would be abandoned. Once people realise it’s hopeless, their care would cease. Maybe not initially, but inevitably. Like the guy from The Beach that gets wounded by the shark. The rest will go on and the sick will be forgotten.
For the planning aspect, lack of notes shouldn’t matter. Populations would coordinate locally, and as long as you can remember what you’re supposed to be doing the “next” day, you’re golden.
I like that, people’s relationships would continue to develop and probably large frivolous events would happen everyday (aided by ample looting of champagne and cake) until maybe people have literally nothing else left to say to each other
So basically marriage? ;)
Yeah, relationships would begin and end as normal I’d expect. The only limitation to meeting new people is how far you can reasonably travel within the window.
Money and working for it stop making sense immediately, so nobody works at anywhere, no services are going to be in place unless the workers are somewhat bored.
Without service workers, how fast do you think you would go? You will always be in the same city? Can you learn to fly a plane to eventually reach another place? Can you learn to fly a Boeing by yourself to travel farther? No fucking security regulations anywhere baby.
You can go a full day without eating or drinking much water, so maybe some days you eat, some you don’t. After few loops, crime rises, and it can’t be really punished, but people will remember criminals and what they did, so the next day a bunch of the affected can kill the criminal for the day, until they no longer want to do it.
How Groundhog Day rules would apply here? Everyone wakes at the same time? What happens if some go to sleep earlier and some try to be wake as many days as possible, until their inevitable death?
Most interesting thing is that no real danger would exist, and no real consequences, as the static world resets, but the collective memory of people would survive.
I imagine it wouldn’t be too difficult to travel a few hours a day to the airport and learn to fly a plane. As for going anywhere, I don’t see the point beyond doing some spectacular aerodynamics on a 747.
Crime would be something that everybody would do at some point I imagine, just out of sheer curiousity. And I think if it’s something that everyone is guilty of to the same degree and quantity, then I think people would mostly shrug it off. Carrying judgement into the next loop would not be worth it imo
Side note, anyone who hasn’t seen Palm Springs should check it out
I can imagine some people going full battle mode, leading to constant death and attempts to protect oneself
What’s guaranteed is that after the first hundred loops you’ll probably never feel safe ever again
You should read the Friday Black story I posted above
But… Why would anyone do that?
Sure, people might try it out more because of the “apparent” lack of consequences… But the reason we humans don’t do violent shit isn’t because of things, it’s because of other humans, and they remain exactly the same.
If one person turns out to be a murderous maniac, the people around them would probably band together and take them out at the start of the loop, effectively being a very real consequence you’d wish to avoid.
If everyone is experiencing it, then everyone is going to change their behavior every day and the only thing that will be the same is the weather. There will be no patterns, but you’ll have people walking down the street, dodging pidgeon poop like Nic Cage with a mullet.
I think people would eventually settle into a pattern. It must be like retirement is like: at first you don’t know what to do with the time, and then eventually you settle into a rhythm.
I can imagine a lot of people committing creative suicide in the first few hundred loops before they get bored and settle on something else
There will be no patterns, but you’ll have people walking down the street, dodging pidgeon poop like Nic Cage with a mullet.
Lmao. That does raise an interest point – let’s say that animals are not aware of the loop and have to repeat their behaviours
You know, I hadn’t considered that. You’re immortal and so is everyone else. Do you even bother trying to enforce laws? Anyone put in jail is going to wake up back in their own bed. Anyone in jail is going to do whatever they can to escape. I suppose the guards aren’t going to show up for work. In fact, nobody is going to go do their jobs. Why would you choose to slog it out when you could do anything? Power companies will go dark, and public transit will disappear. Telecoms would stop working and anything that isn’t automated will just go away.
I suppose the early morning hours would be a mad dash for resources and weapons. Anyone unfortunate enough to sleep in that day would wake up to a world gripped in chaos every single day. Late nights would be either a wild party or extremely lonely.
But with the reset, things wouldn’t fall into disrepair. People who want to restore power and communications go just go and turn those back on. Money would be meaningless, so it would just be civic pride and boredom that brings the world back from chaos.
Sex wouldn’t mean much. Anyone giving birth that day would probably get weird. Anyone suffering from terminal illnesses would probably secure some great drugs and numb the pain as much as possible.
We would create a lot of performance art. Music, plays, creative storytelling, everyone would have time to create and consume.
Physical art would be almost nonexistent. You couldn’t work on a painting or statue, and anything you create would be gone by the next day.
I’m not sure if companies would go dark or if public transit will stop. There are a lot of workers who are grateful to be out of the house away from their families, and/or take peace in mindless tasks.
I definitely do see chaos and weapons reigning supreme in the first few hundred loops, but afterwards, why bother? Why takeover the world if you’re back to zero the next day.
I can imagine it would suck indeed for heavily pregnant people or people with debillitating illnesses.
So normal life, except all the non-human things become unchanging?
The economy is sure as hell going to be different in a hurry. Pretty much only service industries will survive, because anything else gets reset tomorrow. In a way this will be great, because people will be just as well supplied anyway, so it will give room to pursue personal development in earnest. Or maybe we’ll find a new way to fuck ourselves.
Why would service industries continue at all? Why would anyone work service jobs? Next day they just reset. They never get paid but never go broke. No reason to work.
Some people will just work to do something. It’s pretty boring doing nothing every day. Especially customer facing roles where you can talk to people instead of staying home. For cooks they can hone their skills everyday.
Naive to think landlords wouldn’t start charging by the day
What difference does that make? If I pay my landlord $30 today, that money is back in my account “tomorrow.” Plus, it’s not like you can get an eviction through, all paperwork is blank at the end of the night, so only the things that people can remember are maintained.
Yeah but money is already fake and we already live in a post-scarcity society. The people at the top of social hierarchies aren’t just going to let the world go to temporal communism. Why would someone who lives on the street play nice if they can murder a guy with a mansion and try again the next day if they lose?
They’ll figure something out. Accountants will become teams of oral history keepers. Cops will torture and murder you for jaywalking.
But they can’t stop you from waking up there and they’re not going to spend every morning rounding the same people up. Even if they did, go ahead, throw all my shit on the sidewalk, I’ll still wake up there tomorrow. It would be interesting to see how they react to it, because there’s no meaningful way for them to control people (that I can think of, but they’re pretty creative when they need to be)
I read most of the comments and I find it interesting how people kind of gloss over mental health. People commiting suicide over repeating their day over and over or the perceived lack of control over their life is one thing. But imagine settling into the mundanity of forever without change. Some will go legitimately mad. Some people live with pain everyday, but now they will for near eternity. I imagine there will be a large number of people who’s first step is to futility off themselves everyday.
What changes though is only your current external situation not relating to humans is staying the same. Everyone can still continue to grow and go to therapy, learn more about themselves and the world. This is basically almost completely still the real world. Most changes a human notices is the humans around them changing, not the walls of the apartment. Relationships still evolve, breakups happen, new love can be found. Science can still continue, we can use human memory and the internet to collect and analyze data. Instead of amassing physical wealth we might amass knowledge.
I imagine there will be a large number of people who’s first step is to futility off themselves everyday.
Possibly, although from their point of view (and going by GD rules), they would wake, kill themselves and then immediately wake again.
So, after a while of trying that, it might make more sense for them to try and make the days feel as long as possible to delay that waking up moment.
True. Also depends on what’s making them off themselves.
I don’t think it’s “glossing over”, it’s that actual mental health problems are outside most people’s frame of reference so the thought doesn’t occur to them. It’s less active ignoring, more simply not knowing.
Very good point of view.
Also think about people with locked in syndrome. You can’t move, but you are aware and now everything is repeating.
this would get me to buy some subscriptions
You’d have to buy them every day - that’d get annoying fast
yeah but like one at the start of the day and then binge.
Mm true
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I just fuckin finished All You Need Is Kill, that was a neat story!
In a Groundhog day loop, I can tell you that suicide would become so much more casual…
Yep. Just “nope, not today, see you fuckers tomorrow!”
People would eventually begin to realize the futility of possessions and start to live truly free lives.
Unless they’re due to give birth. Also curious about people who might be in the middle of an oceanic flight. I’m sure there are other typical circumstances that would be hell.
But if the birth isn’t today, the pregnancy might as well not exist. I mean of course the physical disadvantages of having a big belly are relevant, but the baby isn’t, it can’t do anything, it will never be born
