• Shapillon@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I really don’t see what’s racist about Russia in that joke. If someone’s the butt of that joke it’s the Polish who’s willing to hurt themselve just to get back at Russia.

    And there are loads of Polish jokes about Germans.

    “An unlucky position” that’s putting it mildly.

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      2 days ago

      It’s not racist. People forget “Russian” is a nationality, not a race. Russia isn’t just populated by Slavs (much to the chagrin of Putin, I assume).

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        2 days ago

        Imho discriminating against a nationality is still racism. e.g. WW2 anti-japanese racism in the US.

        Russia has a very colonial attitude toward its non slavic citizens.

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          2 days ago

          Learn the difference between xenophobia and racism, please. The difference matters for proper discussions of different topics that pertain to discrimination in general and you are clearly confusing both of them in your weak attempt at accusing someone of behaviour they never displayed while they explained a joke that is rooted in historical context.

          More to the point, being against Russian dictatorship policies and historical atrocities is neither xenophobia nor is it racism.

          Everyone with a functioning frontal lobe knowns the Russian people are mostly helpless under a dictatorship that practices putting opposition (civil or political) in gulags, but one cannot just “lay down and take it” if the Russians come for them, just because you pity their situation. Criticizing dictatorships is of utmost importance, feelings be damned.

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            2 days ago

            I agree that xenophobia and racism are different albeit related concepts. And I appreciate you reminding me of it. I’m not sure it makes a real difference for the conversation at hand.

            After your first paragraph you’re just ranting about stuff I didn’t say or intend to imply.

            You might have gotten your replies mixed because I’m the OP that shared the joke xD