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I feel this negative outlook isn’t very healthy. Yes there are problems, as there have been at any point in history. That doesn’t mean nothing good happens or can happen.
Go make some nice things happen to yourself or someone else.
Whoa. People born around this time will (hopefully) live to the year 2100.
mind be blown.
In 2100 I will be 126 so I hope not. Not unless they have massively improved geriatric medicine.
But imagine a worst reality, what if they do invent immortality drugs, and then we’re stuck with these idiots forever? What if it’s just century after century of the flat Earth conspiracy theorists (despite us clearly having a moon colony) and Andrew Tate.
Your take is not the correct one, longevity treatments (immortality drugs isn’t something that can be made) will roll back your physical age by reparing you. Not just forcing life to stay in a decaying body.
So at 126 you’ll run around playing basketball and listening to heavy metal, if that’s what you like.
Well you can give me a new heart but unless they do something about the brain there isn’t any point.
I’m 36 and it’s not impossible that I’d see the year 2100 so yeah.
yes. a lot.
I like having a smart phone, but maybe that’s just me.
God when are people going to get tired of this disgusting, useless, tween angst attitude toward life?
When there’s less shit to be angsty about.
Really? In the history of the world, there hasn’t been a time more safer, healthier or better for mankind then now.
Don’t stare yourself blind only on the scary stuff. That’s what the media wants, to make you obedient, scared and consuming.
Instead, why not engage and talk with people? For every ugly person in the news, there are 100 good people in real life.
Break the cycle of negative echo chambering. Please.
It depends on what you mean by “ugly”. Seeing so many people worldwide vote for harsh xenophobic policies made me realize that I consider most people sort of ugly.
Perhaps they are just afraid, but it paints the real world picture. I don’t think people are good or bad inside, just egoistic. Me included.
Still I try to see the good in people and I tend not to whine, but I do understand the pessimistic views.
Firefly
No? It’s not 2026 yet
Is the year 2020 part of this century?
Yes but 2000 was not.
Sorry, I meant 2000, and thinking about it, yes I guess that’s correct
Found Arthur C. Clarke
Yes. The fediverse wouldn’t get much awareness if it wasn’t for Twitter and Reddit absolutely shutting themselves. I wouldn’t even be here if that never happened.
Assuming you meant “shitting themselves” - Lemmy is doing that too, it just wipes better, at least for now.
It’s a better description than mine.
That’s technology in a nutshell. We moved off of one platform to join another.
If we didn’t, we’d still be sending each other messages on AOL and join chatrooms to have discussions.
At least this time around there’s no central server that can be shut down killing everything that exists in that platform. Obviously AOL Instant Messenger and many other popular messaging apps from that era suffered from this exact fate.
Obviously not everywhere but marriage equality made great strides.
Well yeah, I’ve got a better job and my country inflation is finally going down. That’s good in my books!
Conservatism has dragged America fifty years behind in tech progress and wasted all of our resources on destruction over building. I wish this country would get fucking NUKED. America is a dismal failure on every level
Describe the 50 years of tech progress that we’ve lost or you’re full of shit.
We could be driving electric cars and having solar panels everywhere.
We could be having the fastest wifi network.
We could have high speed trains.
Medical advances as well. I don’t even want to go into the vaccine territory.
All of those things were considered problematic by the old guard, who conservatives supported. One side continues to protect the yacht owning class. Conservatives would still be fighting marijuana if the rest of the population didn’t tell them to fuck off.
And if you think this is all wishy-washy speculation, get the fuck out of America for a minute and look around the rest of the world. American cities are no where near other international cities in terms of living, quality, tech, support. You have to be dumb as fuck to not recognize how often Conservatives vote against tech initiatives to line their own pockets.
The thing about losing progress is you can’t know where you would be if priorities were different.
If the same amount of passion and resources was poured into the space program for the last 50 years as it was during the moon landing we would certainly be much further ahead, but no one would be able to tell you where would we be.
How do expect someone to describe something that hasn’t been invented yet?
The thing about losing progress is you can’t know where you would be if priorities were different.
There are some cases where you can know where you’d be if priorities were different. Hence the most frustrating graph in the world:
Very revealing if it’s true. Fusion is the perpetual “20 years away” poster child.
Here’s a PDF of the study, seems legit
Oh I totally believe it, I meant assuming all those figures on the graph were true, which I do. Been following fusion for decades. Frankly it looks more and more like the fusion industry has taken the same approach to fusion that drug industry take with disease - don’t cure it, just keep treating it forever.
Turns out electric companies aren’t too interested in electricity that’s too cheap to meter.
Ehh looking at semi conductor & solar panel production I see what this persons saying. “Losing 50 years of tech progress” isn’t quite accurate definitely, however the US has decayed its tech lead compared to the space race era, for example.
I met and married an amazing person this century, so I’ve got that going for me which is nice.
Congratulations! Same here!
Congratulations! Same here!
Congratulations! Same here!
No. Have you not been paying attention?
The first quarter of this century is over at the end of 2025.
2001 was the first year in this century. 2025 is the 25th year in this century. 2100 will be the 100th - and last - year in this century.
(1 was the first year in the first century, 100 was the 100th - and last - year in the first century. That’s why every subsequent century starts on xx1 or xxx1 as well)
That doesn’t make much sense though, year 0 does exist. We define our calendar based on Jesus’s supposed birth year, not his birth year+1. Or?
Year 0 doesn’t exist because it’s either before or after Christ being born. What would year 0 be?
There’d also be asymmetry if there was a 0 A.D. but no 0 B.C. (as that wouldn’t really make sense)
Yeah, year 0 doesn’t exist, it goes 1BC -> 1AD
Only programmers start counting with 0. All the normal people start with 1.
You mean normal people start at 0 and non-programmers sometimes start at 1?
How many apples are you holding right now? Is it less than 1? How would you count that?
When I write that normal people start at 1 then I mean that normal people start at 1, funny enough. Also, I am currently holding 0 apples. No need to start counting.
So 2000 was still 2nd millennium?
On a 1’ ruler, the first half inch ends at 0.5". All of the measurements within that first inch are “0.x”. “1.x” will be in the second inch. “2.x” is in the third inch.
Calendars don’t work like that. 1 January 1AD is in the first year, not the second. 31 December 1AD is still in the first year.
364 days after his (ostensible) birth was December 31st, 1AD. At midnight that night (364.999… days) 1 full year was complete, and we entered the second year.
3650 days after 1 January 1AD is 1 January 11AD.
36500 days after 1 January 1 AD is 1 January 101AD.
365000 days after 1 January 1AD is 1 January 1001AD.
31 December 2000 was the last day of the second millenia. The first day of the third millenia was 1 January 2001.
Year 1 AD would have started on March 1st, as Pope Gregory hadn’t happened yet. Also, no-one knew they were in the Julian Calendar AD yet either.
2000 was the last year of the second millennium and also the first year of the 00s. 2001 was the first year of the third millennium and the second year of the 00s.
That makes it even worse
Apparently yeah. In fact, it’s actually easy to tell which years are in the 2nd millenium just by knowing its final year.
But people chose to celebrate the new millenium in 2000 because it’s much more fun to have every single digit in a calendar year change than having only one digit change and calling it “a new millenium”. Also, January 1, 2000 looks and feels so much cooler in my opinion, unless you write it in the dd/mm/yy format (mm/dd/yy wouldn’t make much of a difference), in which case 01/01/01 has that nice satisfying feeling of all variables being the same value.
Apparently yeah. In fact, it’s actually easy to tell which years are in the 2nd millenium just by knowing its final year.
That was the point of my question, the disbelief of “wait, 2k is the last year and not 1999?”
And I think it would be even easier if one could just look at the thousands digit and tell from that. It would be even more easier if the millennia and years and such were all 0-indexed, so you’d have the zeroth millennium spanning 0-999, the first millennium 1000-1999, the 19th century would be 1900-1999…
Would be nice, but unfortunately you can’t change a calendar system the world is so incredibly used to. Just the change from the Julian to the Gregorian was a massive change.
Don’t you remember all the pedantic asshats saying that 2000 wasn’t a new century? “There was no year zero!”, “People just want all the digits to change!”, “You’re celebrating a year early!”
I don’t, to be honest. I wasn’t exposed to much pedantry back then. I wasn’t exposed to many people on general, but that’s not a conversation for this place :D
I’m an old fart who graduated high school in '99, so I was right in the middle of all the blossoming internet pedantry.
You’re in a safe space among friends here, feel free to expose yourself whenever you want!
…wait…
Expose myself? What kind of amateur fighter do you take me for?
oooh that kind of expose!
Nah, I had no PC or internet, not many friends and my parents didn’t do a lot of the “meet up with other parents so the kids can play together” stuff because we’re all socially dysfunctional.
Yes, but most people ignored it and celebrated the new millennium at the end of 1999 and beginning of 2000 anyway.
See this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium#Debate_over_millennium_celebrations
It’s quite interesting. For example Fidel Castro made sure that Cuba celebrated correctly at the end of year 2000. And the U.S. Naval Observatory, official timekeeper for the country, held a party for the new milennium then too.
Can’t we just redefine it? That doesn’t seem reasonable in my mind.
(This is a joke, I know how awful that would go)
If we were to redefine it I wonder what way we’d go. Make -1 the first year of the first century and go in consistent 100 year steps from there? Or just accept that the first century and the first millenium are a little shorter than a hundred or a thousand years respectively?
Name “-1” year zero and have that be the start of the first century and millennium, would probably be the most reasonable option.
The idea I originally had would have been to decrement the year numbers, so that year 1 is now y0, 546 is 545 and 2001 is 2000. But changing existing dates is a recipe for nightmares, so let’s not.
We have redefined it. The thing about language is no one controls it. If enough people want to call 2000 the start of the new millennium, then that’s when it was. It’s all arbitrary numbers anyway.
I meant in the sense of “Make Year 1 Year 0, shift all dates back one year, cause a lot of headaches when dealing with dates written down before year shift vs after year shift, but at least the 3rd millennium now properly starts at 2000”, but you have a better point
Has anything good even happened?
Yes, definitely. Americans are realizing that their country is shit too and they are not exempt from falling into an Autocracy. Maybe that will teach them a bit more compassion with other people around the world and will stop the arrogance of bringing “democracy” (because it’s “clearly the best form of state”) to countries who don’t want it.
The american system is not a guarantee for the wellbeing of the people, and now that americans finally understand that, we can start actual constructive dialogue based on mutual respect, i hope.
Lol, ok, they totally didn’t realize their country used to be good and will vote for anything thatll fix it, or at least, shake the fucking jar.
The country has always failed its people, and those of other nations worldwide.
