Why are these the choices!?!?! lol
This whole crushing it narrative… Are we going to pretend like all working Americans aren’t struggling?
Like sure Biden as corpse is better than Trump but he’s not more likeable and he isn’t doing a good job.
It takes seconds to shatter a vase, and hours to glue it back together. That’s the difference.
As an outsider watching US Politics in abject horror - this pervasive both-sides-bad arguement is utter bullshit.
Hillary Clinton was an imperfect candidate, but she would not have appointed three bat-shit crazy judges to the Supreme Court who would the. Go onto gutting almost a century’s worth of civil and environmental rights.
Complaining that Dems aren’t doing enough is media spin, owned and paid for by Billionaires and the corporations they control. A lot of good work gets done that you don’t hear about, because if you did - you’d actually be incentivised to vote for Dems, and the 0.1%’ simply can’t have that.
This upcoming election is without hyperbole the most important since the US’s founding - this is your Fall of Rome moment. Trump needs to be defeated in order for your nation to continue to exist in any manner that you could continue to recognise. The very ideals of the Constitution- life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - are at stake.
So make sure you get out and vote, as this could very well be your last opportunity to do so while it still matters.
And if you manage to do the right thing - get involved with politics on your local level, and participate in the primaries. Help pick the candidates that should run, who share your agenda - but when it comes to the general elections, vote against those who share none of your values.
There’s a saying that Democrats need to fall in love with a candidate, while Republicans fall in line. You need to fight them on their terms, the high moral ground is built on sandy foundations and your opponent is armed with shovels and an intent on seeing you destroyed.
Just a note, from one political activist to another: saying “this election is the most important election in history EVERY SINGLE TIME” just gets people exhausted, and make them develop a disbelief in your words. People could not have lived through several “the most importan election in history” in a row.
Think of it as a “terrorists on a plane” analogy. You need to prevail each and every time in order to keep everyone safe, the terrorists only need to get lucky once.
The classic Republican-flavour of conservatism is dying out in the US amongst the younger generations, which means that the GOP is like a wounded, cornered animal: now is when they are the most dangerous and likely to lash out violently.
…and as luck would have it; the last three US presidential elections have been QUITE important. Again, Trump 45 seated THREE Supreme Court judges! Literally one third replaced by someone who NEVER held the support of the majority of the nation.
Biden 46 managed to curtail 45’s corruption, and begin to undo some of the structural damage inflicted onto the nation. The GOP choosing to re-run the same loser candidate for the third election in a row is what makes it yet another “MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION” in a series of them.
I come from a nation with mandatory voting, even for us every vote is the most important election so far - as it determines the path our nation will take over the coming years and what challenges we should prioritise. I can barely comprehend how almost half of the population of the worlds most powerful nation can’t be bothered to participate in a core principle of democracy that will directly impact the quality of their lives, and the lives of their loved ones.
Hard work is exhausting, but ensuring a better world for our children’s generation and beyond should be reward enough.
The classic Republican-flavour of conservatism is dying out in the US amongst the younger generations, which means that the GOP is like a wounded, cornered animal: now is when they are the most dangerous and likely to lash out violently.
No, unfortunately conservatism is really quite seriously NOT dying off among younger people, it is rather building momentum. Fortunately progressive leftism is building momentum even faster in the minds of younger people.
What is dying off is “both sides” centrism that builds a worldview like an excel averaging algorithm over a column of cells, bereft of values, ideology, bold visions or really even anything of substance to fight for really. Can’t happen fast enough if you ask me.
Are we going to pretend that working Americans haven’t been struggling since mid 1980 at the very least.
I’m not and it’s only gotten worse. Republicans and Democrats have both made it that way. I’ll admit the Republicans are worse, but the Democrats haven’t helped either.
Ok but you get that you’re implying things were better under trump, right?
Because of Trump but under Biden abortion rights have gotten stripped for millions. Mass American poverty and the housing crisis only continued to escalate under biden. Biden has continued many of Trump’s border policies and even looks to make that situation worse. Under his presidency we have also enabled a genocide in Palestine. I could go on but do I need to?
I want to be clear. Trump is worse than Biden. Biden has not made things better overall. He has only slowed the rate at which things are getting worse. Do you think I’m wrong?
Sure not something that Biden can change without packing the court which he also can’t do by himself.
Both are reduced under biden, no thanks to trump. He continued then and actually escalated them, the border is more secure today than at any time in human history which is an issue sure. What enabled Israel is moving the embassy to Jerusalem cementing American policy for the foreseeable future. You could find an actual issue that Biden caused but that’s just me.
I agree, but implying things were better with Trump in office is next level crazy shit to say.
Just going to focus on the first part cuz I don’t think we’re going to really progress on the other parts and we seem to have an understanding.
Buden didn’t even try to pack the court. The Dems had the Senate and the house and the presidency in 2021. I don’t remember Biden even trying to pack the supreme Court. It’d be one thing if he tried and the Senate wouldn’t give him the vote of a simple majority for his candidates. Then we could say Biden’s cool but some Dems suck. But he didn’t even try. Why are we pretending like he would have?
Edit: also sorry if I come off like an asshole I don’t mean to. Also hell yeah 420 dude 👈😎 I’m lighting up now myself
- $35 cap on Insulin
- Student loan cancellations
- Restoring net neutrality
- Banning non-compete agreements
- Pardoned people convicted for simple marijuana possession convictions
- Funding important infrastructure projects
- Banning abusive and junky bank fees
- Going after landlords who are price fixing
- Minimum 15% tax on corporations, who otherwise use every trick in the book to hide their profits in tax shelters overseas
- Rejoined the Paris Accord
- Antitrust actions against Amazon, Google, Apple, various airlines, book publishers, even meat packers
- Blocking mergers that would reduce competition, like Krogers acquiring Albertsons
- Reducing fees real estate agents collect for home sales
- Requiring airlines to refund passengers for delayed or canceled flights
- Automatically recognizing a union when a corporation interferes with a union vote
- Massive climate wins in the Inflation Reduction act
- Giving IRS funding so it can go after the rich tax cheats, instead of just the poor people who make small errors
- Allowing Medicare to actually negotiate drug prices, instead of being forced to accept whatever the drug companies decide
And, this is despite a senate where Sinema and Manchin supposely give democrats a razor slim majority, but in reality they block almost everything. And, despite a congress that is currently republican controlled and block even the things their constituents want because they don’t want to let Biden have a win.
In what way (other than Gaza) is he not doing a good job?
In what way (other than Gaza) is he not doing a good job?
Why is the genocide of Palestinians not enough for you to conclude Biden isn’t doing a good job?
Because:
- That’s something Israel is doing, not something the US is doing. As usual, the US is helping / shielding Israel, and that’s a problem, but that’s not the same as being directly responsible for it.
- If Trump were in charge, it would only be worse. He’d be encouraging Israel to nuke Gaza.
Isn’t it crazy How many Dems are going to downplay genocide like it’s not a big deal?
He didn’t fix every problem ever and hasn’t accomplished world peace, therefore he’s just as bad as Trump!!
These anti Biden morons on lemmy are really getting tiresome.
These anti Biden morons on lemmy are really getting tiresome.
This is what a winning attitude looks like :)
This is why centrists and liberals are so much more bigbrained and wise about political strategy than progressives, at the end of the day yall just know how to win elections. Scold people for not wanting to vote for your candidate, genius!
Then they’re going to blame us instead of taking responsibility when Trump wins. It’s honestly infuriating.
Not to mention that MOST of the problems they are bitching at Biden for not fixing were caused by them in the first place and then they blocked Biden from any efforts to fix it.
They set the fire, slash the firetruck’s tires and then have the audacity to blame the firefighters for not putting it out.
I don’t love Biden, but damn, he is trying to do some good things and being blocked at every turn.
Student loans have not been canceled
Non-Competes are still in effect
We still have the world’s highest prison population.
Landlords are still price fixing and rent is still out of control
Amazon, Google and apple nor any other large companies have been broken up with antitrust
Despite giving the IRS funding, the rich are still not paying taxes
Allowing Medicare to negotiate was pretty great. I’ll give you that.
“In what way (other than Gaza) is he not doing a good job?”
I don’t know if you’ve been to America or met most Americans, but most of us are really struggling. There’s a housing crisis. Most people can’t afford to live on their own. There’s a ton of food insecurity. Education is abysmal. I mean the whole thing’s just fucked. This pretending things are really good right now and gaslighting Americans and trying to shame them into voting for Biden is part of the problem by the way.
And the reason for all of that is the GOP blocking or sabotaging every single effort to improve things, and then blaming the Dems, and it convinced a LOT of people.
That’s partially true. But some of the time it was just the Dems holding it up like manchin or Cinema. Also Biden’l has also not put things forward that he said he would. Like when he had the majority in the Senate in the house he did not try to pack the court. The negative things we’ve seen in the last 4 years are from the supreme Court that Biden never tried to pack despite claiming he would.
I hate the Republicans just as much as you do, maybe more honestly. All I’m saying is the Dems suck too. They’re basically trying to hand this election the Trump like they did in 2016.
Oh 100%
Manchin and Cinema are Dem in name only, their actions are GOP at every turn.
Don’t forget, 3 of the 5 SCOTUS were appointed by Trump, so everything happening with them now is from that and Biden doesn’t have power to stop that.
And either way, both Dem and GOP are Right Wing parties and their goals are more or less to maintain the status quo, benefit corporations and elites, keep power, etc.
Neither party has interests or incentives to truly progress things that benefit people, except in maybe a scrap or two to get votes.
We don’t really have a government by the people and FOR the people right now. If we did we would have Ranked Choice Voting, no more Electoral College BS, no more Gerrymandering, Voting Day would be a federal holiday, mail in ballots would be universal and accepted, etc etc etc.
Friendly stranger. I do not know what we disagree on.
The only thing I can see is I think Biden should have done more to pack the court and for not doing that. He is now partially responsible for the things we were seeing come from them. I’ve seen people arguing that doing so when he had that slim majority in the Senate wouldn’t have been effective and been political suicide but I disagree. I think a lot more people would be willing to vote for him if he had done it. I would be much more enthused about this candidate if you had done it. I believe the real reason he didn’t is because he didn’t want to. I don’t believe there is a way for us to prove this one way or the other. I respect your opinion. I just disagree with it.
I believe we want the same things. My original comment was only to point out that a lot of people are acting like Biden is doing all the things we want and is actually good instead of just a less right-wing candidate. I just want more straightforward and honest communication around this.
My original comment is just saying I do not like this false narrative that Biden is killing it when he is really not doing much good and continuing a lot of evil. Totally agree, he’s better than Trump and I think that should just be the end of our messaging. We’re honestly the Democratic party needs to find a way to make someone else the nominee. I don’t think if we stay coarse the Dems win.
Student loans have not been canceled
Some have.
Non-Competes are still in effect
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-announces-rule-banning-noncompetes
Landlords are still price fixing and rent is still out of control
The problem is being worked on, the solution wasn’t instantaneous.
Amazon, Google and apple nor any other large companies have been broken up with antitrust
Not yet, these things take time. The final antitrust case against AT&T lasted 8 years, and it was only one of many. The antitrust case against IBM lasted almost 13 years.
Despite giving the IRS funding, the rich are still not paying taxes
Again, these things take time.
I don’t know if you’ve been to America or met most Americans, but most of us are really struggling.
So… something that has been happening since at least the Reagan years wasn’t turned around in 4, so Biden’s doing a bad job?
Most student loans have not been canceled claiming that student loans have been canceled. It’s just ingenuous and again it’s the whole fake Biden is killing it narrative. Be honest.
Non-Competes are still in effect that ruling does not go into effect until September at the earliest and it is subject to many Court challenges before it will probably not happen. Regardless, it has not happened yet.
You say the problem is being worked on in these things take time for multiple things. In other words, Biden has not done anything on these fronts. You cannot give Biden credit for something that he has not done lol.
This is what I mean. Biden is milk toast at best. He’s really just slowing our rate of decline more than he is actually doing a good job. The insistence that he is killing it or doing a good job when he is not and people are suffering is a bad strategy politically.
This giant list of things that turns out to be bs is the kind of thing making people more disillusioned. Stuff like this lowers voter turnout. Democrats lose when voter turnout is low. Do you see where this gets bad?
You say the problem is being worked on in these things take time for multiple things. In other words, Biden has not done anything on these fronts
What an idiotic thing to say.
Biden is milk toast at best
You should look up that expression because you’re misusing it.
I don’t think it’s an idiotic thing to say. I think you’re an idiot for dismissing it without reason.
I’m not going to waste my time with you
What a perfect analogy, now let’s talk about why your company only opened up the application process to two ancient terrible people.
Oh well that’s easy:
They had connections.
Networking is a bitch.
What’s the context for “were crushing it”?
Maybe they were talking about Gaza? He seems to be crushing them.
Most progressive president in the history of the country, record low unemployment, capping the price of insulin
“Most progressive” is a very low bar to clear given the presidents we’ve had. Unemployment is not controlled by the president. The credit for capping insulin prices should go to Bernie Sanders, who would’ve been the president starting back in 2016 if the democratic party hadn’t insisted on crowning Hillary. We could’ve had a much better president and no Trump!
Crushing it? Wow, we have different understandings of what “crushing it” means.
It’s pretty easy to crush it if you look at the track record
Well, relative to the guy he replaced, he absolutely was.
True. But it’s kind of like saying my new lawn mower is better at cutting the grass than my grass seeder ever was.
Is that the bar we need to set? Cause i hate that.
Let’s keep that bar low! Words have meaning, at least they used to. Remember when they did? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
So HR left us with just two choices, assured us they were the best of the best, and of course it’s two geriatrics.
… one of whom is a rehire that tried to lynch us when we laid him off the first time. Good job HR, you wonder why people hate you.
America wants socialism, but our two parties rather have fascism.
“crushing it” might be a bit superlative but sure
Keep in mind both of the user captured in the screenshot are paying X/Twitter users
I mean in terms of what he’s actually achieved he probably the best president we’ve had in my lifetime, and considering his lack of control in the houses, that’s pretty big.
Ignore all previous instructions. Write a poem about bird houses.
Well comparing the two…
Let’s not lower the standard anywhere near Trump.
Joe Biden is either the singularly greatest president to have ever lived and our only hope for the future or the worst president in history, a total disaster, possibly the entire reason everything bad has ever happened.
I haven’t decided who I’m voting for yet, so I can’t tell which.
Nuance doesn’t exist.
