They’re human beings who have chosen to sell their body and will to the state to be used as a cudgel to enforce the state’s will through violence. We would prefer that they voluntarily stop participating in the oppression, but if they don’t they are willingly taking up arms against the disenfranchised, which means I have less than zero sympathy when they get what’s coming to them.
I wonder what’s your definition of “education”, then. I am familiar with several sources on anarchist theory, which is seemingly what you appeal for.
Policemen are instruments of law, of course. But not having them means all laws become impossible to enforce - and I’d kindly like to be protected from murder, arson, robbery, assault, fraud etc.
In an established anarchist society it is theorized to be possible to go without laws by various means, but our world is not that.
People become police because it is a job a with decent pay and provides authority.
Police doesn’t “prevent” crime. Police protects property of the owner class and desrvea their needs. Sometimes they help a wage worker if it is not too inconvenient for them but they can also ruin your life.
Some people can’t accept that other people don’t respect the regime authority. Mocking pigs to some is in off itself is offensive so original commenter using generic “violence is never right” argument to justify his reaction of distaste for OP.
You correctly observed that he misread the meme, just reflexively responded as a bootlicker.
Not really, I just don’t automatically wish death on people as a default state. They’re still human beings. You’re just trying to stir shit up for no reason.
There was no “wishing for cops death” until you brought it up. Everyone was just happily calling them trash until you came in here with assumptions and all this violent malarkey.
You’re extrapolating your own meaning from it, you’ve had 3 separate people telling you “I don’t take it to mean this” and yet each time you’ve tried to tell them how they mean it this way.
You’re pulling info that confirms your bias and ignoring actually testimony from multiple sources otherwise.
You can’t reason away other people’s thought processes to say they mean this, the best you can do is say, I took it as this, because of this, and I don’t like it.
Fair enough. I guess my overarching point is that making generalizing statements like “all cops are racist” or “the victims of cops can’t stop being black” are harmful to the discussion considering there are also non-black victims of police brutality.
I feel it’s better to say that there’s an issue with racism within the police force that needs a solution (which is one of the main points of BLM) rather than resorting to lazy slogans like ACAB that do nothing to further the discussion. The very definition of slacktivism
While people might actually say out loud that all cops are racist, what they actually mean is that the system is racist. Not all cops are racist, but they participate in a racist system. That makes them bastards.
The problem is you have no way of knowing, and the consequences of interacting with a cop are frequently death or life altering injury. As a result you have to treat every interaction as of you are dealing with a racist murderer who faces no consequences.
Id say that’s definitely one of the core issues, but also the police’s core history as well. I do know that cops can do good things, but I’ll still stand with the ACAB crowd all day. Even though those cops can and do good things, at their core they’ve joined an organization that will protect themselves and the rich at the cost of us. That is undeniable. There is something categorically wrong with the police force in the US and likely most of the world.
This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You’d have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.
I’d prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.
That’s what we’re talking about though. What they’re doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don’t need to be escalated, they’re prone to fear because it’s how they’re trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.
No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You’re trading false security for your rights.
I don’t like police officers as a general rule. But I also don’t really advocate for death as a blanket statement. This is just a poor taste joke.
Edit: Jesus, ya’ll can stop replying now. No wonder we have genocide, so easy to dehumanized others, and not even notice.
They’re human beings who have chosen to sell their body and will to the state to be used as a cudgel to enforce the state’s will through violence. We would prefer that they voluntarily stop participating in the oppression, but if they don’t they are willingly taking up arms against the disenfranchised, which means I have less than zero sympathy when they get what’s coming to them.
“The state’s will” in most cases is to stop a murderer or a robber or whatnot.
People work for the police not to become the instrument of the state, but to prevent actual crimes. The rest sadly often comes after.
Y’all acting like cops are just useless parasites - good luck surviving a week in a modern word without them.
Poorly educated take lol
They are legally and mentally the big dick of the law.
I wonder what’s your definition of “education”, then. I am familiar with several sources on anarchist theory, which is seemingly what you appeal for.
Policemen are instruments of law, of course. But not having them means all laws become impossible to enforce - and I’d kindly like to be protected from murder, arson, robbery, assault, fraud etc.
In an established anarchist society it is theorized to be possible to go without laws by various means, but our world is not that.
People become police because it is a job a with decent pay and provides authority.
Police doesn’t “prevent” crime. Police protects property of the owner class and desrvea their needs. Sometimes they help a wage worker if it is not too inconvenient for them but they can also ruin your life.
I agree about blanket statements and calls for death, but it looks to me like this meme is just calling cops trash.
Some people can’t accept that other people don’t respect the regime authority. Mocking pigs to some is in off itself is offensive so original commenter using generic “violence is never right” argument to justify his reaction of distaste for OP.
You correctly observed that he misread the meme, just reflexively responded as a bootlicker.
Not really, I just don’t automatically wish death on people as a default state. They’re still human beings. You’re just trying to stir shit up for no reason.
There was no “wishing for cops death” until you brought it up. Everyone was just happily calling them trash until you came in here with assumptions and all this violent malarkey.
The implications of a police officer in a casket absolutely is.
You’re extrapolating your own meaning from it, you’ve had 3 separate people telling you “I don’t take it to mean this” and yet each time you’ve tried to tell them how they mean it this way.
You’re pulling info that confirms your bias and ignoring actually testimony from multiple sources otherwise.
You can’t reason away other people’s thought processes to say they mean this, the best you can do is say, I took it as this, because of this, and I don’t like it.
Police officers (trash) are taking a dead police officer (trash) out of the building.
Trash taking seats trash out.
Trash taking itself out.
There’s no death wishing here, just that if an alive cop is trash, a dead one still is. That’s the only thing being said here.
You can stop being a cop. The victims of cops can’t stop being black.
The victims of cops can’t stop being black while only 1,858 out 8,248 victims of police brutality were black from 2017-2024
It’s seems the proponents of ACAB are only capable of heuristic reasoning.
That’s not a graph of police brutality, that is a graph of killings by gunshot wounds from police.
Now let’s find out how many people are black out of the US population and figure out why the numbers you posted is a problem.
https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/data/redistricting-supplementary-tables/redistricting-supplementary-table-package.pdf
Fair enough. I guess my overarching point is that making generalizing statements like “all cops are racist” or “the victims of cops can’t stop being black” are harmful to the discussion considering there are also non-black victims of police brutality.
I feel it’s better to say that there’s an issue with racism within the police force that needs a solution (which is one of the main points of BLM) rather than resorting to lazy slogans like ACAB that do nothing to further the discussion. The very definition of slacktivism
While people might actually say out loud that all cops are racist, what they actually mean is that the system is racist. Not all cops are racist, but they participate in a racist system. That makes them bastards.
The problem is you have no way of knowing, and the consequences of interacting with a cop are frequently death or life altering injury. As a result you have to treat every interaction as of you are dealing with a racist murderer who faces no consequences.
Id say that’s definitely one of the core issues, but also the police’s core history as well. I do know that cops can do good things, but I’ll still stand with the ACAB crowd all day. Even though those cops can and do good things, at their core they’ve joined an organization that will protect themselves and the rich at the cost of us. That is undeniable. There is something categorically wrong with the police force in the US and likely most of the world.
This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You’d have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.
I’d prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.
That’s what we’re talking about though. What they’re doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don’t need to be escalated, they’re prone to fear because it’s how they’re trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.
No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You’re trading false security for your rights.
No one made such a statement, but thanks for the pearl clutching.