• Boomkop3@reddthat.com
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    “Jay” is an old English slur. “Jaywalking” refers to walking on a public street illegally. For highways, it makes sense that you’re not supposed to walk there. But in America this “jaywalking” can even apply to city streets.

    If you’re not in America, then it might just sound ridiculous. That’s because it is

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      Has anyone actually been charged with jaywalking in the past 50 years tho? I’ve never heard of anyone giving a shit in any town or city I’ve been to in the US

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          Nice bullshit headline that implies the cops are just so racist (gotta be sure they mention the jaywalker’s race, right?) that they saw a black guy jaywalking and just decided to gun him down for it. Meanwhile, from a better article:

          At some point during the struggle, Reinhold grabbed hold of Israel’s gun in its holster. Duran shot Reinhold twice after he continued to resist arrest and kept his grip on the gun, prosecutors said.

          The deputies gave voluntary statements to investigators that were corroborated by surveillance video, witnesses and forensic evidence, the letter said.

          Gee, not so cut and dry after all, huh?

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            “Watch this, he’s going to jaywalk,” one of the cops says as they pull up to Reinhold.

            The other responds, “Don’t make case law.”

            Yes, it is cut and dry that they were planning on doing something horrible and using the jaywalking as an excuse to start the encounter.

            I see you deleted your other bootlicking comment and replaced it with this one. Feel free to keep trying, bootlicker.

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          So if you actually read the article, that guy was shot because he ignored verbal instruction to return to the sidewalk, physically resisted being physically directed back to the sidewalk, and eventually tried to wrestle the cop’s gun out of his holster. This happened over a 12 minute span captured on multiple devices.

          This fucking race-baiting sensationalist headline would have you believe cops saw a black guy jaywalking and just immediately opened fire because they’re just that racist apparently.

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            “Watch this, he’s going to jaywalk,” one of the cops says as they pull up to Reinhold.

            The other responds, “Don’t make case law.”

            The cops knew that they were going to escalate the situation from before the encounter ever started.

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          That’s someone being shot for being black. Were there no jaywalking law, the cops would have found another excuse

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        “New York City’s jaywalking laws may seem obsolete, but the NYPD still tickets hundreds of people a year for the violation.” This JUST ended and jaywalking was made legal in NYC in October 2024. However this is a single city example. Jaywalking is still illegal and ticketed throughout the US. Especially if vagrancy laws were already removed, it’s a nice loop hole for cops to be able to harass homeless.

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          Ah, I must be too not-homeless, cuz that’s not my experience in NYC. Just another tool for oppression of undesirables then.

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      For highways, it makes sense that you’re not supposed to walk there.

      Americans have created such a large and dense web of highways that it is difficult to cross the street in some areas without walking miles in a given direction to reach a crosswalk.

      Houston, in particular, has this bad. You can easily find yourself near a freeway or overpass that sends you on a 20-30 minute hike to cross the street.

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        I once got yelled at by a cop for walking across a nearly empty road in columbus Ohio.

        The closest crosswalk was basically 1/4mile in either direction, because the building I was trying to enter is so large.

        I was walking with a cane at the time. And no cars were anywhere close so a snail could have made it across with time to spare. It took some people close by stepping in and arguing for me before the Douchebag dropped it.

        Im sure if I had looked my usual level of disheveled or had any other shade of skin I wouldn’t be so “lucky”

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          Contrast that with my country which has law state that if there is no crosswalk closer than 100 meters, you are allowed to cross the road, provided you do so carefully - not disturbing traffic etc. You do however loose lose all protections of the law during this, and you cannot pass if there is a suggestion you shouldn’t, for example a rail or some other barrier between sidewalk and road.

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      I’m european.

      Walking on a highway is just plain dangerous, to not say stupid. On that context, it is justified. Crossing the road outside the zebra crossing can get you fined, as you are endangering yourself and others. We have those laws as well. But walking on city streets? I can’t remember one in the entire country which I can’t walk up and down.

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        A lot of America is made up of roads that most people would agree in isolation should only be crossed at designated/signaled areas. However, if your entire municipality is just made up of those roads and you don’t prioritize crossing areas, pedestrians will naturally cross illegally.

        I lived in an apartment building that had a parking lot across the street. The nearest crosswalk was a few minutes walk in either direction. The owner tried to petition the city to add a crosswalk, but the laws prohibited too many crosswalks regardless of the practical needs. He even offered to pay for it himself. So, you had tons of people who lived there crossing illegally.

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            None while I lived there, which was a few years. I had a close call once because people sped a lot, so the perceived distance wasn’t always reliable. Cops camped out not far from the area sometimes because it was instant tickets as a result.

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                Speeders. The jaywalking fine in that jurisdiction was negligible because it hadn’t been updated in like 100 years, so the cops probably didn’t think it was worth their time for a $1 ticket.