• ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I hear the FDA actually controls American food in a much healthier way than European even though the opposite is commonly thought.

    Europeans can definitely be much louder and annoying than Americans.

    Europeans can be more racist, mention muslims or Romani people.

    European democracy is just as bad.

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      Muslims hated us first though and some of them (that currently live here) want to destroy our civilisation in favour of their barbaric medieval religion, and their continuing growth causes me some concern about when there are enough of them around, and someone has started a sharia party, and all the imams go “you must all now vote for sharia” how many of them will follow that decree (and how many non-muslim useful idiots will too).

      Not enough concern for me to start hating or discriminating against them on an individual basis, but everyone’s different and some are further down that road than I am.

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      I hear the FDA actually controls American food in a much healthier way than European even though the opposite is commonly thought.

      What do you mean by this? Because when I look at lists of banned substances and why, or pesticide limits, the EC seems much stricter than the FDA.

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        I don’t know enough to speak effectively to the overall point, but the banned food additive list and is only a microscopic portion of what food regulators do

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          Where are you getting your information on that? Last time I checked there’s a whole lot of meats the EU won’t allow to be imported from the U.S., due to the additives and antibiotics used. This is particularly relevant to pork.

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      2 days ago

      European democracy is just as bad.

      Have you got a particular country in mind or are you referring to EU elections?

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        As an European, I think the obscene amount of lobbying we allow to happen around EU institutions is something that makes “European democracy is just as bad” sound reasonable.

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        The politics of Italy, the UK, France, Germany, Hungary, and others all seem close to or worse than the current state of American politics. The only difference is that the US wields a lot more global influence and has no neighbors powerful enough to keep it in check (sorry Canada and Mexico, I still love you). Europe is not doing enough to prevent the spread of its own far-right/neofascist groups and the inevitable erosion of human rights.

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      FDA

      What are you smoking? We don’t even have corn syrup in our soda or chlorine in our chickens, no putrasene for chocolate, in Europe we don’t even know what tums are which seems to be a common thing to take in the US. We have chemical food dyes but just because they’re chemicals - as is everything - doesn’t mean they’re bad.

      I do agree the politics are shit though.

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        Tums is just calcium carbonate (chalk, basically) and is essentially the same as any other rapid relief antacid tablet. Google tells me that a brand called Rennie is the same thing and is apparently available in much of Europe.

        Might be more commonly taken in the US because Americans tend to eat greasy, heartburn-inducing food more often.

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          Might be more commonly taken in the US because Americans tend to eat greasy, heartburn-inducing food more often.

          Yeah that was the implication. Our food quality just doesn’t necessitate this sort of stuff.

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            to be fair, if youre arguing about the effectiveness of agencies like the FDA, im not sure that this is really relevant. You can make greasy, sugary, carb laden food out of the safest, purest, most well researched ingredients without any additives and it will still be an unhealthy diet. The FDA cant reasonably mandate that people have to eat their vegetables after all, at least not and actually expect people will listen to them. Im not saying that the FDA actually does do its job better or worse, I dont know that, but I feel like food quality in the sense that an agency like that can control is more a “does this stuff contain toxic ingredients” rather than “does the culture of this area like a well rounded diet”.

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            Might depend on the region/cuisine though and different things that set people off.

            I can’t eat most Italian food without taking a Tums or some omeprazole because the tomato, olive oil, and cheeses common in those sorts of dishes just wrecks me. But spicy food I don’t struggle with much at all, so Szechuan food and Mexican food doesn’t really bother me.

            The one time I tried an English style breakfast with greasy sausage and beans also had me feeling sick most of the day, and I also skipped the tomato with that one. I shudder to think of what a German currywurst might do to me.

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      Europeans can definitely be much louder and annoying than Americans.

      I’m general or just in certain topics?

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          More chemical food dyes are allowed by the EU.

          But their regulations are more strict overall. There are a lot of US foods can’t be imported without reformulating the product.

          Which fascist did whatever EU country vote for this term?

          Bruh, we literally just elected a fascist felon who tried to overthrow the government when he lost the last time who openly surrounded himself with fascists pushing project 2025. It’s not even a close challenge…

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              People voting for fascists ≠ bad democracy.

              The democracy in the USA is bad because you have a two-party system, meaning that there’s barely any choice. In the Netherlands, we have a whole bunch of political parties that share space in Parliament, so that representation is proportional to the votes.

              As a result, we have both the PVV and GL-PvdA in Parliament; one is very right on most subjects, the other is pretty leftist.