The conversations are amazing

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      Social credit scores were a thing. People were punished for low scores. It only happened in a few cities and it was described as a pilot.

      Obviously the pilot got a lot of bad press in and outside China and it is no longer happening

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      And they believe Uyghur genocide too. They’re fucking brainwashed. They completely lack critical thinking capabilities.

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      But… social credit literally is real… There are government legislations on this. It is not a conspiracy theory.

      On the other hand Western media definitely has exaggerated and demonized it a lot. The social credit is basically your credit score, but it is more expansive and uses information some might see as encroaching on their personal privacy and freedoms.

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          So I’m not crazy? I could’ve sworn I looked into it, and it was basically just a credit score where you also get dinged for police interaction or living with someone who committed a crime

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          This right here.

          And the point is that an average American barely knows how those work, or exactly what information the government and or private financial and other companies collect about them (it’s a lot), in the same way the average Chinese person barely knows just how much surveillance their government is doing on them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply).

          This post is such tankie bullshit.

          Pretending like only one government does (internal and external) propaganda, or only one government is oppressing and lying to its own people (not to mention people in other countries), or that the average person in any country know, or is willing to admit to themselves, never mind others, and especially never mind people from a country you’ve been propagandised against from birth, the flaws of their own government is not only laughable, and hypocritical, but also massively counterproductive.

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            the average Chinese person barely knows just how much surveillance their government is doing on them (it’s a lot) or how much it impacts their daily lives (deeply).

            Unlike you, of course. You, the enlightened Westerner, the true free thinker, know so much more than those orientals.

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              Chinaman regime good, daddy Sam regime bad🤡

              It’s a fucking large state, their entire MO is control of population to rule them for personal gains. How naive is anyone to still LARP “my daddy good, my daddy strong, your daddy bad” bullshit.

              Adult fuxking people jfc

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                First, don’t use that term to describe Chinese people, that has racist connotations.

                As for your claim that the entire MO of the PRC’s government is “control for personal gain,” can you elaborate?

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                  First, don’t use that term to describe Chinese people, that has racist connotations.

                  That’s a you a problem dear;)

                  Communist party of China and their state controled oligarchs have gotten wealthy. Now there is a large working class that doesn’t get much benefit from the regime and the growth model is stalled ie the same parasitic set up we see across all regimes currently.

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                    It is not a “me problem” that you use outdated terminology with racist connotations, don’t double down. Own up to it and revise your comment.

                    Either way, the National People’s Congress is not controlled by the Bourgeoisie, rather, the people control it. As a consequence, we see the widespread poverty eradication campaign reach a successful conclusion, large public infrastructure, and dramatic improvements in working class purchasing power and working conditions.

                    Consider reading China Has Billionaires if you want to understand modern China from a Marxist perspective.