• ngn@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 hour ago

    i think in a logical society it would have been the other way around (second image would be the first)

  • far_university190@feddit.orgEnglish
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    4 hours ago

    𝕯𝖎𝖊𝖘𝖊 𝕶𝖔𝖒𝖒𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖆𝖗𝖘𝖊𝖐𝖙𝖎𝖔𝖓 𝖎𝖘𝖙 𝖓𝖚𝖓 𝕰𝖎𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖚𝖒 𝖉𝖊𝖗 𝕭𝖚𝖓𝖉𝖊𝖘𝖗𝖊𝖕𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖎𝖐 𝕯𝖊𝖚𝖙𝖘𝖈𝖍𝖑𝖆𝖓𝖉

    Diese Besitznotiz gilt nicht für Elon Musk. Den könnt ihr gerne behalten, wir brauchen keinen zweiten Höcke der zusätzlich noch viel zu viel Geld hat.

  • MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    I’ve tried to imagine how I would gesture ‘my heart goes out to you’ vibes. In no world can I imagine a down-turned, flat palm, fingers straight and all together at about 45° (Nazi salute).

    Like, if you were to give some one something (your metaphorical heart) you’d hand it over palm up. Or if you’re metaphorically distributing it like sewing seeds you would again, throw it out, palm up, hands slightly closed. Or if you’re throwing it like sand, you would have your fingers apart by the end of the throw.

    In no world, does this make any sense other being a Nazi salute.

    Or he’s the most awkward, weird dude in history. That is also, true, but given his other behaviour, I dunno how this could be read in any other way.

    • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      Racist “dog-wistling” is dead. This guy does two successive straight-up Nazi salutes after supporting right-wing politics in the USA and Germany and mainstream media still goes “hum, I’m not sure, maybe he’s sharing his heart”?

      What’s next? “Oh no, it’s not a swastica flying over the capitol, it’s just 4 'F’s in a circle”.

    • Ronno@feddit.nlEnglish
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      4 hours ago

      I know you’re joking, but I still struggle to see how that makes things better? We have evidence that the Romans also committed genocide.

      • AlolanYoda@mander.xyz
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        1 hour ago

        The nazis modeled a lot of their Reich on the Roman state (the eagle iconography was used by both). The Roman salute was just something else they took from their idea of the Roman empire

        So I’m with you, I have no idea how “it’s a roman salute” is supposed to make anything better

  • Atlas_@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Ok, so imagine that you’re a billionaire and a really smart dude (as claimed by so many people on the internet). And you get into government and appear on TV and want to look good. You might hire a publicist, a PR team, some speechwriters, hell how about a body language consultant. When you go on TV you’re going to project exactly the image you intend to. Anything less would be careless and stupid, right?

    So yeah. This was a Nazi salute. And if you really want to argue that it wasn’t, that Musk doesn’t even know what a Nazi is, you gotta also accept that he’s grossly incompetent and should not be in government at all. Throw him out, we didn’t vote for him.

    • Grapho@lemmy.ml
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      2 hours ago

      What a fucking clown show of a state lmao. An empire in such steep decline that even the oligarchs and the politicians are incompetent.

  • spacesatan@leminal.spaceEnglish
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    15 hours ago

    He did put on a weird stank face when he did it. He thought he was doing something but I don’t think he was aiming for nazi salute. He’s happy to trigger the libs over it but I think in the moment it was somewhere between the weird jump he did on stage and the ketamine putting enough holes in his brain that he thought this was a normal ‘my heart goes out to you all’ gesture.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      15 hours ago

      He thought he was doing something but I don’t think he was aiming for nazi salute.

      He did it more than once.

      He did it exactly like Nazis did it.

      Once to the crowd. Turn around and once more to the Fuhrer or Nazi flag.

      You don’t need to make excuses. He did it.

      • spacesatan@leminal.spaceEnglish
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        15 hours ago

        If it was intentional I don’t think he would choose this venue. Trump has gotta be so pissed at him for stealing the media spotlight and making him look bad.

  • soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.ml
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    18 hours ago

    conspiracy theorists taking us for idiots, nothing new(, even if you’re taking it quite farther than usual).

    On the side of real stuff happening : D.Trump said a lot in his inauguration speech, and just put Cuba back on the terrorist states list, seems worth more discussion than your fantasies.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      16 hours ago

      I asked the Anti-Duckification League and they say he’s a swan. You’re misconstruing things and frankly we find it a bit weird that you’d read so far into such a banal hand gesture.

      Now, if you’ll excuse me, we need to get back to our primary goal of making the use of the phrase “From the River, To The Sea” a capital crime.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        16 hours ago

        Liberals deeply, passionately, fervently need to believe in some kind of cosmic justice for conservatives. But I’m surrounded by them deep down in the bleeding red state of Texas, and I’m sorry to report they’re thriving and multiplying.

        Yeah, sure, they’ll bitch and cry like stuck pigs at the mildest inconvenience. But plenty of them still have fat bank accounts and big price-inflated houses they took the mortgage out on 20 years ago when land was cheap and college degrees with minimal debt and luxurious country club style mega-churches subsidized with public dollars and giant families with chubby little grandkids outfitted in all the latest MAGA apparel.

        Like, the idea that you’ve got these armies of Crying MAGA voters who have sucked shit due to Republican policy is delusional. The army of billionaires showing up to the Trump Inauguration so they can kiss the ring and collect another few trillion in next year’s federal spending should let you know exactly how delusional.

        Conservatives aren’t suffering and liberals would do well to stop pretending a friendly government is incapable of jerking its favored constituents off. Just because the last four liberal Presidents fumbled the bag for their base voters doesn’t mean Republicans can’t or won’t happily deliver.

        • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          15 hours ago

          Conservatives aren’t suffering

          They are, they just aren’t aware they are, so in a way they’re not.

          Travel around the U.S. A lot of conservative America looks like a 3rd world country. They suffer. They just aren’t aware, because they don’t travel. They don’t expand their perspective through knowledge. Rural conservatives will arguably suffer more than any other group under conservative leadership. But ignorance is bliss.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            14 hours ago

            A lot of conservative America looks like a 3rd world country.

            That’s not “conservative America”. That’s just “America”.

            And what it looks like is an increasingly stratified society, in which obsence wealth abuts horrifying poverty.

            Rural conservatives will arguably suffer more than any other group under conservative leadership.

            Rural conservatives don’t exist in any meaningful number. What you have are rent seeking land barons and suburbanites operating defacto plantations with quasi-legal disenfranchised laborers.

            The plantation owners aren’t going to suffer. It’s the migrant workers and day laborers who will eat shit. None of them are allowed to vote in any real sense.

    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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      18 hours ago

      The normalization and defenses of it, the crying maga soyjack, has been coming from the the major media networks from what I have seen.

      MAGA is stroking it.

  • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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    21 hours ago

    At first I thought it was blown out of proportion, too. After watching the video, I can only say that if he did that in Germany, he would have been arrested on stage. Let’s see what topic-relatedly, profoundly knowledgeable Benito Mussolini, allegedly, had to say:

    “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.”

    Ah, ok, thanks Benito! Enjoy your fascism that you voted for, America. I hope those egg prices will go down (they won’t).

    • 1984@lemmy.today
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      18 hours ago

      Maybe arrested and then let go without any consequences. These guys are too rich to have proper punishments.

    • SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de
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      20 hours ago

      I hope those egg prices will go down (they won’t).

      They might, since deregulation is another of Trump’s plans. Then the producers can save money by not bothering to keep dangerous substances out of the food, or the water, or the air… and pass those “savings” on to the consumers.

        • Grapho@lemmy.ml
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          2 hours ago

          These fucking dorks obsess over the fall of the Roman empire but they’re so full of American chauvinism (they’ve grown around the mythology of a settler state after all) that they can’t go “ah, fuck, it was the rich people who killed it”, they blame the barbarians iNvAdInG.

          Absolute brainrot.

      • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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        20 hours ago

        If you don’t need to look for Avian flu, or stop selling eggs from sick Chickens, then cost savings can be passed on to customers, and no one will notice increased healthcare costs/deaths. Cheap eggs y’all.

      • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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        20 hours ago

        and pass those “savings” on to the consumers.

        More likely that they pocket those savings for extra profit and the prices stay the same.

        • Feydaikin@beehaw.org
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          3 hours ago

          Then all the fast-food places can buy the dead chickens for cheap and again pass the savings on to the soon to very ill consumer. Glorious plan!

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    The real excuse from Elons fans is “It’s just a joke.” Or “He’s trolling libs.”

    Which is almost as bad, even if true.

    It reminds me of school bullies that would make cutting, abusive “jokes” and follow it up with “Just kidding, bruh” if it doesn’t land right. And these are some of the worst human beings I have ever personally encountered.

    How can people worship something like that at such scale? Like, I wouldn’t even wish that on the most raging Nazi, it’s worse than breaking their jaw.