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      They are called such as that is where you will most likely run into the kind of fool who will claim Chinese people are freer than most nations on earth when that is a clownish claim IRL.

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        You have no idea what life in China is like. All of your information is strictly based on US propaganda

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          You have no idea what I do and do not know because you don’t know me. You are not psychic. You’re deluded if you think Chinese people are freer than most nations. In most nations I can propose changing governments without legal reprisal which is currently illegal in China.

          Please explain how not having the ability to determine the political direction of your nation makes someone freer than anyone who can choose their government.

          Could Jack Ma’s papers run an editorial demanding Xi step down?

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            No, because Jack Ma is a rich scumbag and shouldn’t have power over the government. The biggest difference between China and the US is that billionaire oligarchs don’t run their entire country. And I know you don’t know anything about how Chinese people live because you wouldn’t have the opinion you have if you did.

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              That’s not what I am asking you but it is interesting that you are incapable of answering these questions. Is that failure due to the fact that China isn’t free and any leftist supporting them is a class traitor? I think they are class traitors.

              China’s oligarchs are selected by the party. It’s just as corrupt of a process overall.

              Again you aren’t psychic. You have no idea what I know and the only thing I know about you is that you have difficulty understanding obvious facts such as the fact that you aren’t psychic.

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                I have something called deductive reasoning. I know it’s foreign to you because it’s a lot of big words and it sounds like telepathy, but I promise it’s a real thing.

                China has plenty of freedoms, but what you’re advocating for is a lawless anarchist society which often devolves into rule by the capitalist class anyways. More importantly, I think it’s really stupid to completely ignore every leftist accomplishment that China has made and the fact that they’ve gotten closer than any country in history to becoming a real socialist society. But no, they’re class traitors for some reason because they arrest people that break laws. How evil it is to have law enforcement.

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                  You had nothing to deduce anything from. Hell you haven’t even looked at my post history here.

                  China lacks most of the freedoms most of the world has.

                  China has a stock market which is really hard to have if the workers are being paid the full value of their labor. China isn’t the closest any nation has come to socialism in its current state because it has moved into a state capitalist economy with billionaires. How is that socialist? It isn’t. It’s still very authoritarian.

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                    Every one of my friends who’s visited Mainland China has been struck by just how hypercapitalist it is

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      Like not licking the boot of any Authoritarian government? Hmm, yes brainrot lol classic tankie comeback

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        I just wish you weirdos would come up with something smarter than tankie. You right wingers are terrible at roasting leftists. Just be more creative. Tanks are awesome and tankie just sounds like someone that likes tanks. Tanks a lot.

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          Nah it’s someone who is a class traitor who believes authoritarians who murder in the name of leftism is doing good when IRL these nations aren’t leftist at all eg China which has stock markets.

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            One does not simply “do” communism. You have to transition into it. Also, I shouldn’t have to tell a leftist that capitalism isn’t “when you have markets.” Read a book. Specifically Capital.

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              Also, I shouldn’t have to tell a leftist that capitalism isn’t “when you have markets.”

              A stock market is trade in the ownership of the means of production by private individuals, ffs

              It is one of the innovations of capitalism. Jesus Christ.

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                Owning stock in a company does not give you control over the means of production. Sorry bud. Also, I don’t remember Marx ever claiming that every innovation of capitalism must be discarded to achieve socialism. Has no one actually read Capital?