• HalfSalesman@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    The incompatibilitist consequentialist in me says no but the cathartic revenge hedonist in me says yes.

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      1 month ago

      I dunno what them big words mean, but I see a yes in there and thats all I need to hear

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        1 month ago

        Breaking it down, the ‘no’ comes basically from “Free will doesn’t exist so no one can justly be punished and violence just causes pain and a cycle of more violence”

        The ‘yes’ comes from "We’re all dead one day anyway and it is intrinsically pleasurable to harm/kill people who have wronged me, my loved ones, or any innocent people. "

        The latter is actually a more unethical embrace of pleasure.

        On a broader scale though I’m against both the death penalty and revenge/vigilante killing, but I actually think the latter is comparatively less unethical in a vacuum. At least in the case of revenge/vigilante killing someone is getting something out of it.

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    1 month ago

    I believe many people carry with them a deeply buried desire to hurt people, but their morals keep them from doing it to just anyone. But they yearn for a chance to do it without moral repercussions.

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      1 month ago

      You don’t get to be the apex predator spread around the whole world without a love for violence ingrained deep inside the species hearts.

      So, agree more or less. But also I think the desire can be nuanced, like personally I don’t want to just commit random violence but I do wish some folks would get hurt or killed. I think it’s like that for most of us.

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        I know I couldn’t do it, and I don’t want to either. If I fantasise, it’s about using stern words that make them rethink life choices at most. The vilest of people don’t deserve to give me trauma from using violence, even without repercussions in heaven or whatever, I really don’t think the human psyche is built to perform violence against humans. Maybe animals. With humans I am fully convinced it damages the assailants ability to feel safe and okay, even if the recipient deserved it

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          You mistake your own thoughts for those of others. It’s a common bias to assume you are the norm for knowledge or emotional response.

          There are plenty of people who absolutely do seek and enjoy violence on other people and there is plenty of history to back that up. As well as sports, boxing, and just general bar fights.

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            26 days ago

            No, I think you misread what I said. I think all humans, including me and you, and those who enjoy violence, are not built to do so and traumatises the assailants.

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        I believe we are looking at it from different directions. You say people want to enact revenge on bad people, sometimes violently. I say people want to be violent and hope for someone bad to appear, so can do it without moral repercussions.

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    I’d bring my small box cutter, but I think a crowbar would be more effective. That, and I wouldn’t wanna waste a perfectly good box cutter on street trash.

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    “The south shall rise again” but like as fat inbred Nazi’s is what really confuses me. Like, we nuked Japan, that can easily explain the weird hentai, but the south? They got a black eye then allowed back into the states to start doing Jim crowd shit… Of course we only know the approved history, the constitution was illegally altered during Ww2 and for all we know, had an addition that made what racist and Nazis are doing completely illegal, but since the constitution was changed there’s no one to enforce the actual law of the land. An no one in power seems to care

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      1 month ago

      Better yet? Lose it in your friend’s car before they head off on a road trip. That way, all those modern stresses can be miiiiiles away while you focus on your new happy place for a little while.

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    1 month ago

    Does the soundproofness allow you to do stealth kills? Cuz otherwise, crowbar or not, you’re probably gonna get overtaken by a room full of opponents, unless this is also happening in some sort of kung fu movie.