• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      I think what he meant was we need positive change. Burning our own country down is definitely change, but… well, I guess it’s what the (fucking traitorous) voters wanted, so… buckle up.

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        22 hours ago

        As a foreigner whos seen what the US does to other countries, the US burning down sounds pretty good, and being a traitor to the US something to be encouraged.

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      Not good, still bad, just better than “holy shit why are we driving OFF of the cliff at full speed stop STOP! STOOOOOoooooop…”

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        Trump is driving off the cliff at 100 mph, Biden was driving off it at 90. “We’re technically better” – when part of that argument includes doing hypothetically less genocide – is a losing platform. You have to seriously promise major improvements.

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          Yeah Ive used that same sentiment in this analogy a few other times before. The Dems became complacent using “at least were not them” as there entire fucking running strategy for too long. “Here are 1-2 token policy changes that are technically a step in the right direction, that will distract you from business as usual while never undoing any of the real problems with the country and making larger steps toward more problems”

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            7 hours ago

            Another part of the problem is that Obama promised fundamental changes, made only some minor improvements, then the party took a significant rightward turn (especially in foreign policy). His signature domestic policy achievement was so minor that healthcare was the biggest issue in the next two Democratic primaries. His two biggest foreign policy achievements (the nuclear deal with Iran, beginning to normalize relations with Cuba) were immediately undone by Trump, and Biden took no steps to revive them.

            He overpromised and way, way underdelivered, often with a notable lack of trying. You can’t sell people on incremental change if you build only small things the other guys can immediately break, and if you don’t even try that hard to do better.