This is one huge problem I have had with gun control advocates. In Canada they are basically banning all rifles that look ‘military’. The problem? All, and I mean ALL semi-auto rifles now look like that. Even ones that still have wooden furniture like a pre-WW2 era rifle can have them swapped out for black polymer and ‘look’ modern.
Even lever guns are sporting serious polymer furniture that make them look like sci-fi western guns.
The definition of ‘military style’ gun was created in the late 80s when your average gun owner was still owning their vintage ww2 surplus rifle (from the 1960s to 70s WW2 era rifles were so common on the market that there wasn’t that much room for anything truly new) that had that old school look while all new military rifles had switched to polymers and had protruding pistol grips.
The rhetoric has remained the same despite almost 40 years passing and a lot of basic changes.
Pretty much, yes. It also serves as a mount for the rear sight. Since the AR platforms keep all the major moving parts in a straight line back from the barrel, ergonomics requires the sights to be higher than usual to account for the shape of the face.
Unpopular opinion, probably, but if your hobby, such as hiking, sewing, reading, improv comedy… kills more children than car crashes, someone should be allowed to take a look at stopping that. Unless the hobby is guns, of course, of course.
I’d argue that food and drink, cigarettes and cars are already regulated more than US guns. For example, it’s illegal to sell soup out of the trunk of my car in some jurisdictions where I could sell a gun under the same circumstances.
We can dive into specifics if you want, I’m sure you’ll be able to find some examples, and counter examples, but I don’t think that’s especially a fruitful conversation.
Then why don’t more people have that style of gun?
I hear this argument all the time about different banned features and attachments. (I own and shoot often btw)
Like for braces. People say it doesn’t make you more able to kill, when it does.
When there was a brief time where braces were legally iffy, I was using a sling instead. Let me tell you something, shooting with a sling is incredibly inaccurate compared to a brace.
Every shot removes the pressure you are putting on the sling, whereas a brace every shot pushes it into your shoulder more.
Shooting with a brace is incredibly similar to shooting with a stock, essentially identical just barely less comfortable.
People are so political when they talk about guns, just be honest with yourself. You can love guns and love regulation at the same time. Maybe we just shouldn’t have crazy people and violent people owning them?
Regulation is good when it makes sense. Calling a gun an “assault weapon” and trying to figure out some ass-backwards and arbitrarily definition afterwards is not good regulation.
Because they make it easier to stay on target for rapid fire shots.
Go ahead and try to tell me that a brace doesn’t make a AR pistol more dangerous to a crowd. I’ve heard this argument a thousand times and I have worked out every angle. Let’s just be honest?
I feel like I have no place. Gun nuts completely ignore reality, gun haters have no real plan for change.
I’m curious how you feel about Hunter Biden being charged with a felony for saying he did not use any drugs on his gun registration. Almost every shooter I know is guilty of the exact same crime, yet everyone thinks it’s okay because he’s a Democrat lol. The second amendment only exists for those who you like 😂
I’ll be honest, as a gun owner I completely despise the gun community. Especially the 3D printed gun community. Filled with Nazi dog whistles, The most popular full auto loophole is called the SS
I feel like I have no place. Gun nuts completely ignore reality, gun haters have no real plan for change.
I don’t collect guns, but I think one should respect both the 1st and 2nd amendments, and it’s frustrating that neither party does so. Frankly, they both ignore reality. The GOP thinks it needs to completely combat any and all regulation presented towards them, even in the face of some mass shooting incident. And Democrats wants to call for the “ban of all guns”, even though there are millions of guns in the system and a 2nd amendment that says no. The fact that they even dared to ban handguns in Washington, DC was ridiculous. None of these laws take any middle ground, and even when they try to classify some gun type they want to ban, it’s a shitty and poorly-crafted law.
I don’t think outright bans are the answer, anyway. Most of what they do in Canada are regulations on who and how you get things. It’s possible to get what you want, but it’s harder than some kid walking into a gun convention and buying a gun with cash.
I’m curious how you feel about Hunter Biden being charged with a felony for saying he did not use any drugs on his gun registration. Almost every shooter I know is guilty of the exact same crime, yet everyone thinks it’s okay because he’s a Democrat lol. The second amendment only exists for those who you like 😂
I think Republicans were trying to find anything on Hunter for years, and this was the one thing they pinned him on. I also don’t think his pardon was a problem for the same reasons this author presented. I think the whole drug question is fucking stupid because the War on (some) Drugs only exists to selectively punish whoever they like, mostly the poor.
Why do old gun nuts ignore the beginning of every interpretation and rewriting of the second amendment?
“well regulated”
The nuts will not care until it is their child who is turned into pink mist.
Do you know how many Democrats I have met who actually want to ban all guns? Zero.
You are just parroting Fox News talking points that make the left seem like they are anti-freedom.
Go far enough left and you get your guns back.
We don’t want to strip the world of guns, we want to strip guns from those who have violent intentions and mental illness. I’m willing to bet that you agree with this and you are probably further left on this than you actually think you are
Does your opinion on braces change or do you still think that they Don’t make an AR-15 more dangerous having one? I would love to go to the range with you we can take the brace off of my AR and shoot the target, then put it back on and shoot the target. I guarantee you will miss the paper at least once without the brace. This is not me saying they should be illegal. But people like you keep trying to say that braces don’t do anything, that is an outright lie
This discussion means absolutely nothing if people have bad faith arguments. And I’m talking about both sides
This is one huge problem I have had with gun control advocates. In Canada they are basically banning all rifles that look ‘military’. The problem? All, and I mean ALL semi-auto rifles now look like that. Even ones that still have wooden furniture like a pre-WW2 era rifle can have them swapped out for black polymer and ‘look’ modern.
Even lever guns are sporting serious polymer furniture that make them look like sci-fi western guns.
The definition of ‘military style’ gun was created in the late 80s when your average gun owner was still owning their vintage ww2 surplus rifle (from the 1960s to 70s WW2 era rifles were so common on the market that there wasn’t that much room for anything truly new) that had that old school look while all new military rifles had switched to polymers and had protruding pistol grips.
The rhetoric has remained the same despite almost 40 years passing and a lot of basic changes.
I’ve always wondered. What is the thing on top of an M-16? Is that just a carrying handle?
Pretty much, yes. It also serves as a mount for the rear sight. Since the AR platforms keep all the major moving parts in a straight line back from the barrel, ergonomics requires the sights to be higher than usual to account for the shape of the face.
Unpopular opinion, probably, but if your hobby, such as hiking, sewing, reading, improv comedy… kills more children than car crashes, someone should be allowed to take a look at stopping that. Unless the hobby is guns, of course, of course.
if we’re gonna ban stuff just based on deaths, we should get rid of fast food, soda, cigarettes, alcohol, and cars in general
I’d argue that food and drink, cigarettes and cars are already regulated more than US guns. For example, it’s illegal to sell soup out of the trunk of my car in some jurisdictions where I could sell a gun under the same circumstances.
We can dive into specifics if you want, I’m sure you’ll be able to find some examples, and counter examples, but I don’t think that’s especially a fruitful conversation.
Where have I seen
that bullshit before?
Then why don’t more people have that style of gun?
I hear this argument all the time about different banned features and attachments. (I own and shoot often btw)
Like for braces. People say it doesn’t make you more able to kill, when it does.
When there was a brief time where braces were legally iffy, I was using a sling instead. Let me tell you something, shooting with a sling is incredibly inaccurate compared to a brace.
Every shot removes the pressure you are putting on the sling, whereas a brace every shot pushes it into your shoulder more.
Shooting with a brace is incredibly similar to shooting with a stock, essentially identical just barely less comfortable.
People are so political when they talk about guns, just be honest with yourself. You can love guns and love regulation at the same time. Maybe we just shouldn’t have crazy people and violent people owning them?
But, why outlaw braces in the first place?
Regulation is good when it makes sense. Calling a gun an “assault weapon” and trying to figure out some ass-backwards and arbitrarily definition afterwards is not good regulation.
Because they make it easier to stay on target for rapid fire shots.
Go ahead and try to tell me that a brace doesn’t make a AR pistol more dangerous to a crowd. I’ve heard this argument a thousand times and I have worked out every angle. Let’s just be honest?
I feel like I have no place. Gun nuts completely ignore reality, gun haters have no real plan for change.
I’m curious how you feel about Hunter Biden being charged with a felony for saying he did not use any drugs on his gun registration. Almost every shooter I know is guilty of the exact same crime, yet everyone thinks it’s okay because he’s a Democrat lol. The second amendment only exists for those who you like 😂
I’ll be honest, as a gun owner I completely despise the gun community. Especially the 3D printed gun community. Filled with Nazi dog whistles, The most popular full auto loophole is called the SS
I don’t collect guns, but I think one should respect both the 1st and 2nd amendments, and it’s frustrating that neither party does so. Frankly, they both ignore reality. The GOP thinks it needs to completely combat any and all regulation presented towards them, even in the face of some mass shooting incident. And Democrats wants to call for the “ban of all guns”, even though there are millions of guns in the system and a 2nd amendment that says no. The fact that they even dared to ban handguns in Washington, DC was ridiculous. None of these laws take any middle ground, and even when they try to classify some gun type they want to ban, it’s a shitty and poorly-crafted law.
I don’t think outright bans are the answer, anyway. Most of what they do in Canada are regulations on who and how you get things. It’s possible to get what you want, but it’s harder than some kid walking into a gun convention and buying a gun with cash.
I think Republicans were trying to find anything on Hunter for years, and this was the one thing they pinned him on. I also don’t think his pardon was a problem for the same reasons this author presented. I think the whole drug question is fucking stupid because the War on (some) Drugs only exists to selectively punish whoever they like, mostly the poor.
Why do old gun nuts ignore the beginning of every interpretation and rewriting of the second amendment? “well regulated”
The nuts will not care until it is their child who is turned into pink mist.
Do you know how many Democrats I have met who actually want to ban all guns? Zero. You are just parroting Fox News talking points that make the left seem like they are anti-freedom.
Go far enough left and you get your guns back.
We don’t want to strip the world of guns, we want to strip guns from those who have violent intentions and mental illness. I’m willing to bet that you agree with this and you are probably further left on this than you actually think you are
Does your opinion on braces change or do you still think that they Don’t make an AR-15 more dangerous having one? I would love to go to the range with you we can take the brace off of my AR and shoot the target, then put it back on and shoot the target. I guarantee you will miss the paper at least once without the brace. This is not me saying they should be illegal. But people like you keep trying to say that braces don’t do anything, that is an outright lie
This discussion means absolutely nothing if people have bad faith arguments. And I’m talking about both sides