Currency is the only currency any party promoted official in our dystopia acts upon with regards to economic policy.

Considering you claimed I was arguing against an “imagined point” and then proceeded to claim against the exact point I made, that bribery somehow isn’t the primary source of action or inaction in our fully corrupted, fully captured government, I believe I’ve made my point.

Neoliberals man… “Die in the streets, but here have a cause ribbon, your existence is valid and I acknowledge it, now please die as you’re lowering property values, not because I hate you though but because the free market has spoken, that’s a super important distinction!”

https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775

With “friends” like these…

I don’t accept that taking the money of an industry doesn’t mean you aren’t a beholden slave to it. It is the very basis of promotion in both parties. You must be a spoiler candidate that both parties loudly hate more than one another to not accept corporate bribe money and be elected.

This whole idea of “well when they took the money, herp derp, did they get caught on 4k hdr with atmos audio saying ‘thank you for the bribe, I will do your bidding in exchange for this bribe that Im taking here, officially, I’m taking bribes for favors up in here!’ then it isn’t acktually a bribe” is lunacy. No bribe ever has happened that way, and money in the sums they bribe aren’t given for nothing.

Corporations aren’t charities, the opposite in fact, when they “donate” 50k to sick kids, it’s marketing. They always then spend millions marketing they donated 50k to sick kids so buy our product. They never spend money they don’t expect return on.

It is intentionally obtuse to make the claim that you can accept corporate money as an elected official and not be their lackey. It’s the reason in our dystopic money in politics nation many go into politics explicitly, they’d like to be bought please and thank you, look how good I am at “fundraising!” promote me and I’ll get even bigger “donations!”

But you are ignoring pressures by various elected officials

Seriously? Both parties are very well bribed to protect their sociopathic corporate greed from civil society.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/industry-detail/F09/2024 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/unitedhealth-group/summary?id=D000000348

If there were elected officials working against them, there were a hundred elected officials being called by the companies telling the parties to get their spoiler members, because the DNC and RNC only promote on your ability to get the bribe money aka “fundraise,” back in line.

Given the timing, and the general apathy and march towards even more malice towards their customers, that would be an unbelievable coincidence.

The day before, they simply had no fear to rescind a profitable new policy. It also happened at the same time BCBS took down all their executive profiles from their website. Was that also just coincidence? Or do you concede that was because of the shooting?

This just just absolutist and naive. I know you think it’s the height of virtue to see the world in such simple terms, but it isn’t taking the world, or humanity, as it is. We are animals, no more no less, and unless we literally genetically modify ourselves, we will always have violence within us. Some will always attempt and succeed at using those tendencies to subjugate the many, and the many can do and have suffered generationally, having children who live just to suffer, until finally the many, left with no other recourse, answer in kind, causing change for the better or worse, but on the long arm of history the better.

Your way of thinking comes from conflating often beautiful, even meaningful fiction as applicable to grim reality that doesn’t exist in prose, and isn’t watched over by some ridiculous divine father figure. It’s appealing to Santa Claus in a world built on coercion and exploitation.

Someone who affected real positive change in a tangible sense once said “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

Yep, MLK’s carrot would never have succeeded without the stick of Malcom X as a threat.

Even then, MLK was stopped from spreading his message of economic equity and socialism, which was tragically extinguished before a matching stick like movement for that was formed, by our government in order to prevent that problem explicitly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Jowers_trial

I’ve explained in a bunch of ways how murder can and does often have nuance based on who is murdered and why.

You appear to ignore those arguments and keep reverting to “murder always bad. Rape always bad, how are they different?” When the premise “murder always bad” you seem to hold as some universal truth isn’t true in a lot of circumstances, some of which I’ve outlined in other comments.

Sometimes murder makes the world a better place. Sometimes it effects positive change. Not usually, but sometimes. Sometimes murdering a murderer is the only way to stop them from murdering more. Sometimes the murderer is so powerful it is the only way to stop them. The trolley problem.

I think your problem is believing you can defeat darkness with light, when the reality is that just gets light crucified and bathes all in perpetual darkness. The unfortunate truth is darkness, whether the fires of hatred or the bone chill of sociopathic greed, only responds to the force they’re so eager to dole out. Light, goodness, benevolence is by its nature amenable, and it is that very benevolence, that flexible, amenable, “can’t we compromise and both exist?” that malelevolence uses to gain dominion, and it never offers the same. Benevolence, when left with no other recourse, must choose to take up the tools so comfortable to malevolence, murder, or be extinguished ie go along which means you’re no longer benevolent, just another compliant subject of the malevolent, and thus complicit.

Oh, Ok, I’m sorry, I inferred a higher level of query when I should have just taken it at face value.

RAPE: unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the person subjected to such penetration.

MURDER: the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

You’re the one that keeps conflating rape and murder for some reason. Every point I’ve made has been about how the reasons and subject of murder creates nuance. I think rape and murder are different discussions entirely. Rape is a purely hedonistic act, you can murder in self-defense, or to save others like by ending a war by cutting off the head.

People can and do murder for selfless reasons, knowing they will suffer or die as a result as a shield for those that stand behind them.

I can repost my at length response as to who is murdered and why matters, your response to it would indicate you don’t see the someone murdering an active murderer, or a member of a mass murder movement, as any different than any random murder of hatred or convenience.

Eva Braun apparently just didn’t love Adolf enough to mend his heart.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5217617/blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-anthem

To those patients… it matters.

I would say such a view means you couldn’t love your own children, not being willing to fight those that would, given the opportunity, take money for your child’s care, then deny that care when they needed it to live.

That’s like a cow knowing their child is about to get the piston to their skull and telling their child to love the pistoner with grace. Very Jesus-y, but an awful parent.

I tried to 🤷

Are you familiar with the trolley problem?

You say that as if this is a retaliation, then peace, then retaliation.

United Healthcare murdered people for profit yesterday. They are today. They will tomorrow. This is an active attack. An active slaughter is upon the people, though the owners just call it business, whether we would fight back or not.

Don’t confuse quiet for peace. We haven’t had peace here in decades.

Do you think we could have loved the Nazis into standing down and stopping their genocide?

Do you think you can love a sociopath capitalist murdering for profit into no longer doing so?

Do you think plotting to run up and Hug Brian would have saved a single life? Because BlueCross, at least for now, reversed a policy to deny enough anesthesia for surgeries because of what Luigi allegedly did. He brought about positive change to some, for now, however temporary.

I don’t believe in justice in another life there’s no evidence of. Loving hate just gets you mowed down, this isn’t a fairy tale or a movie. If we want to turn an unjust world into a just one, good vibes won’t cut it when the people in charge don’t even view us as people due to no meaningful net worth.

Who you murder matters.

I have zero problem with all the Nazis the Allies murdered in WW2.

This is a class war occupation. The Class war was lost in the 80s, the people were tricked into surrendering without terms. Luigi, an alleged traitor to his class bless him, tried to foment a resistence/revolution to the class occupation most of us suffer under.

The idea that change must be nonviolent is something that the oligarchs put in our heads to maintain their control, which includes violence using captured government force against us. Most nations were founded using violence, including this one. Further, the oligarchs have captured both major parties, leaving us to bicker on social issues, and without a vote on the shape and priorities of the sociopathic economy both parties are well paid to defend from us, the people that suffer it. Our nonviolent options have been taken away, as we’re encouraged to be divided and hate our fellow laborers on every conceivable wedge so we never look up. Divide and profit.

Brian was murdering Americans in swaths. His murder weapon was snake oil, a con: “buy our service as your preparation for inevitable illness! Just give us your money every month, and you’ll be prepared when you need life saving care…” “… Oh you’re sick now? You’ll die without care you expect us to pay for? Whatever gave you the idea we’d pay for your care? Thanks for all the premiums, fuck off and die, poorie sucker.”

The thing the gun nuts omit, and I mean the ones that proudly have an apocalypse arsenal, is that they intend to be the marauders stealing other people’s stuff on the freeway. Those types, almost always conservative and thus devoid of empathy, believe they’ll thrive in the wasteland by virtue of having so many guns, when the reality is, seeking out constant armed confrontation as a way of life in a lawless world means you’ll be dead very quickly, because other people have guns too. They just don’t fetishize them or have a ridiculous number of them.

Certainly not for use case.

One was a sports car

One is (supposed to be) a pickup truck

But it’s clear to me what they were going for asthetically. There’s a bunch of people who already did BTTF prop time machine conversions.

That said, I wouldn’t buy a cyber truck because they’re poorly built, poorly engineered, and unsafe.