The reverse of that post I’ve made a week ago…
Rules: pick one movie or series and explain why you actually enjoyed it despite the criticism.
For me: The JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, by far the best ST stuff ever made, I couldn’t take seriously the original universe with the dated effects and stiff acting, same goes for NG… These movies did ST actually great looking and much more believable, not just the effects.
Zardoz. Say what you will about Sean Connery running around in a bright red romper, it was original.
Super Mario Bros. with Bob Hoskins and John Leguizamo. I don’t care how bad it is. It’s in the campy so-bad it’s good pool of movies and nothing anyone says can change my mind. The fact that they were drunk off their asses just makes it even funnier in my opinion.
I saw that shit in theaters. Also Final Fantasy Spirits Within.
Neither time did I fully comprehend what I had just witnessed.
Specifically because the directors had no idea what they were doing, the whole thing ended up being wildly creative. I’ve always unironically enjoyed it.
Seeing it in the theater as a kid was wild. I was confused but I loved it. I could tell it wasn’t Nintendos Mario Bros but it definitely has its own charm.
I thought Waterworld was fine.
I’m not even going to call it a guilty pleasure, but Josie and the Pussycats was a movie that I genuinely adored long before people started to appreciate it for the satire that it is.
As a CIS male I got endlessly mocked, but I stuck to my guns.
Not sure if it was HATED, but Hook if we’re going by reviews. I can’t imagine any kid seeing that movie and not loving it though.
Hook got critically panned??? Have critics ever known what they’re talking about???
I wore that tape out as a kid!
Hook! Hook! Where’s the Hook!?!
“Hey Rufio… Why don’t you go suck on a dead dog’s nose.”
A line I quote often.
Wild Wild West has a 16% on Rotten Tomatoes but I genuinely enjoy that film. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen also at 16% and also a movie I enjoyed
Fun fact. Will Smith passed up playing Neo in the Matrix for WWW. I think we got the better deal but it’s fun to picture it.
No way ! WWW is a treasured childhood memory of mine, this rotten tomato guy can suck ass
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen aka How audiences unjustly bullied Sean Connery out of acting.
Wait, really? That was an excellent movie. I wanted them to build a franchise around it
Indeed.
Sean Connery’s agent had scored him the roles of Gandalf for Lord of the Rings and Morpheus in The Matrix, but turned them down due to feeling the plot was too complicated for audiences to follow. After both of these became money-printing machines, he picked League of Extraordinary Gentlemen despite still having problems with the script believing it would be as big as the other two films and that he wasn’t going to miss out on a solid payday three times in a row…
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen would go on to be a box office bomb, and Sean Connery felt he was too “out of touch” with modern audiences to be an actor.
There is good news though, if you want more from the franchise you’re in luck. As the movie itself was based off of a comic book which has pretty much the same plot.
The only difference is the movie added “Tom Sawyer” to the group, he isn’t in the comic book and had been requested by executives so that there was a token American in the group, fearing audiences wouldn’t be able to relate without a member from the good ol’ US of A.
Tom did seem kind of tacked on there, rather than fitting with the rest. But of course the executives were right, my American pride liked the symbolism of the ending
I can see someone liking League if they’d never read the comic.
I’ve read the comic. I consider them two different things
Waterworld and Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.
Waterworld is ocean Fallout and RHPoT is fucking meme central. Plus RH is my childhood nostalgia movie, I’ve probably watched it over a couple hundred times just on VHS.
Waterworld is Mad Max on a boat
The pitch was probably something like “What if Mad Max but instead of sand we have water?” And the producer guy would be something like “Will the people still be dirty even with all that water?” And the screen writer guy: “Wouldn’t be an post apocalyptic world if the people is not dirty”
I grew up with Men in Tights. My room mate grew up with Spaceballs. It was really fun to swap movies and show each other another Mel Brooks movie.
(If you dont treat those titles and movies, that sentence has a very different meaning)
Both feature Kevin Costner’s ass
Johnny Mnemonic. Keanu cannot act for shit in it, the story isn’t exactly gripping, hell the action in it is somewhere in the shitter. Oh, and Henry Rollins is a nerdy doctor. All if it adds up to a campy trip of slop that triggers my guilty pleasure.
Watching this as a kid that scene where he puts on cyber gloves and hacks his own brain was a wild ride. It’s so ridiculous but still better than much of the “hacking” Hollywood depicts as far as entertainment goes.
People consider it a bad movie? News to me
Rat Race
The Postman. Compared to other post apocalyptic cheese fests it feels like a more nuanced display of societal breakdown and the re-emergence of the barter economy.
Wait. The Postman isn’t considered good? I never bothered looking it up. I thought it was a damn good movie. It really makes you think.
This also reminds me of the social analysis of what actually happens to masses in post disasters.
Look at the breakdown of Katrina. Yes there was rape and murder, but mostly people banded together to survive. There’s always going to be a criminal element and crimes of opportunity. But it wasn’t some selfish, self centered hellscape of every man for themselves. People helped each other and actually showed humanity.
I really like that movie too. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it and now I want to watch it again
Star Wars Ep 1 gets more hate than it deserves. It’s not a masterpiece by any means, but it’s enjoyable.
I feel this way about TFA but the next two deserve the hate
The prequel trilogy at least had a singular vision, even if it probably got diverted at times. TFA started a new trilogy, but got derailed. TLJ had some interesting ideas, but not ideas for the second part of a trilogy.
TFA and ROS are pretty good, but TLJ is a film where you keep waiting for something to happen, and when it finally does (Canto Bight) it has not a god damn thing to do with anything else.
TFA and ROS are fine pieces of Star Wars media in a wonderful trilogy, that’s missing a second movie…
I changed my tune on the prequels, after seeing some fan edits. And especially seeing some of the original cuts of A New Hope, before Marcia Lucas fixed it, I’m convinced the prequels just need a solid re-edit to make them amazing.
As a non-fan, I thought the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies were well received. All the casual trek fans around me seemed to like them, at least
I really like star trek as a whole (besides discovery and picard (mostly)). I think JJ Abrams Star Trek is absolutely great. It’s a cometely different take and it’ great entertainment around some great themes.
For me, it’s the movie Waterworld. I cannot get enough of that movie. So many people hated it. 🤣
Haters: it’s just Mad Max on water
Me: that’s awesome
I like Waterworld, and I like The Postman.
Postman was great! The book is worth a read, too.
The joke in my friend group was that Waterworld was Dances with Wolves on water. The Postman was Waterworld on land. Dances with Wolves was the Postman with Native Americans. Toss in whichever parallel you feel works best to not actually say the movie you’re putting on.
DRY LAND!!!
I dont understand the hate other than cosner was the guy to hate in that era.
I’ve never understood Costner hate. He’s a good actor who stars in a lot of good movies.
Solid Film. Quirky characters. Everyone seems to be having fun.
It inspired me to buy a kayak a few years back to have my Autistic Fish Man Summer.
If paper is the most valuable substance in the entire world, then why are they continuously smoking cigarettes that are rolled in paper? That would be like eating a chunk of gold every hour.
Have you ever smoked? When you’re addicted you’d trade in a chunk of gold for a cigarette if necessary.
I once walked 10 miles to get cigarettes, so yeah, I guess I get that.
In my headcanon it’s some kind of smokable kelp wrapped in different kelp.
Pretty sure when I went to WB world or whatever as a kid they had one of those 15min live shows of it. Jestskis and a few explosions. Surly it can’t be thst unpopular.
It’s a fine movie, but people really don’t like being reminded of climate change or other environment issues. Same thing with Avatar. If you cast an environmentalist as a villain though, people seem to like it.
That was the first that came to mind, but I didn’t know it was very hated, just thought it bombed at the box office opening weekend because it was in competition with another movie that was way more popular.
Batman v Superman and Justice League (I didn’t watch original versions though).
That’s an important distinction. The director’s cuts were worlds better than the originals.
Matrix 2 & 3. I don’t see, or watch, them as separate movies. Rather, together with Matrix 1, they form one big masterpiece for me. But I can see that it doesn’t really fit the 100 minutes format audiences came to expect, and breaking it in three parts did not do it any good. Plus, I guess I’m just a fan of long movies as I’ve also sat through the original, restored “Until the End of the World,” which runs for about 5 hours.
When I binged all 3 movies I realised that 2 and 3 should be watched together as a single film, it makes it so much better
I mean, 2 and 3 are also largely a deconstruction of 1. The Matrix is an incredibly well made movie with really stupid themes. 2 and 3 do an excellent job highlighting why stuff like “Neo is the Chosen One” is fundamentally bad storytelling, but there were a lot of audiences who loved The Matrix fully and completely. I can understand why those people were disappointed when 2 and 3 weren’t just more senseless violence in black trenchcoats, but ultimately the series wasn’t made for them.
IIRC, 2 and 3 were meant to be one film, but it got split due to studio meddling. I wonder if there is a mega-cut adapting the whole trilogy into a single runtime.
I get quite annoyed when people talk trash about 2 and 3. If it’s not for you then that’s fine but saying they’re not good really gets under my skin.
Matrix 2 and 3 were films that always got a bad rep, but were alright if you sat down and watched them.
Matrix 4 is… best left forgotten, and I say that as someone who likes Indy 4
Yea I’m with you on this. They expand on an otherwise superb unit in a rather intricate way, bringing in so much lore and characters, complexifying the stakes, that I can see how they can be perceived as diluting a very pure work of art, and losing the beautiful esoterism of the first. But it’s two of those films you need to watch several times to wrap your head around and appreciate rightfully. Just like The Big Lebowski, in a different way