Why are we letting these kinds of people rule us?
They manufacture consent, couple that with the extreme oppression and destruction of the middle class since the nixon administration and neo liberal right wing policies that doubled down on these awful ideas while actively working to subvert and undermine any movement left on meaningful social issues. We didn’t let this happen so much as we were conditioned to allow it and be too exhausted just barely surviving that we would not have any energy to actively fight and thwart a blatant class war waged against the working class and poor right in front of our eyes,
What are we supposed to do? Vote? Protest? I think you’ve seen how effective those are.
So do you have any proposals? What exactly are we supposed to do?
Well, I was thinking of growing a group that focuses on helping each other reach self-sustainability, which would make controlling them extremely difficult, and would erode the ability of TPTB to exploit them. But my cognitive abilities declined very suddenly, and I struggle to keep a clean stack of clothes
I know this isn’t the point, but they’re not even good jokes? On a technical level. Forget the subject matter for a moment, they’re just bad puns that aren’t very funny or creative.
Agree, but the point of these “jokes” isn’t to be funny. The first objective is to offend and cause harm. The second is to phrase the offense in such a way that the offender has the option to say, “it was just a joke” when confronted by the offended. The guy has far more interest in causing harm to people than making them laugh.
Most likely had the idea to make some puns. Asked Grok and posted the responses he got. Path of least effort.
Wild how the only people defending Musk making a Hitler salute are a war criminal who is committing genocide and his father, who impregnated his step daughter twice.
Don’t forget there’s also the ADL, who want to equate those opposed to genocide as “anti-Semitic” and defend Musk who has been openly fascist and platforming Nazis for ages.
It’s extremely disheartening that people such as this are even given the time of day in the first place. It’s even more disheartening when people are getting fired for pointing out the obvious. I couldn’t be more glad to have deleted my Twitter.
Why does it say “accused” of doing a nazi salute?
Corporate news media is terrified of being sued for libel by Musk, even though it was obviously a Nazi salute. So they use words like “seemed” and “appeared” to avoid saying the obvious.
But the problem is, if you want to be taken seriously as a “news” organization, then you have to speak truth to power and that’s going to make you a lot of enemies. Companys have legal departments to minimize their risk, but in the case of journalism, that department exists to get you OUT of trouble not to keep you from ever getting into it.
cause of corporate bootlickers
“Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,” Musk posted Thursday, adding laughing-face emojis.
Being a dipshit Edge Lord all the time must be exhausting. Remember “Poochie” from “The Simpsons?” Yeah, that’s Elon. To the X-treme.
Genuinely fuck Musk. Cries he’s being called a Nazi while doing everything in his power to act like one.
Nobody does a Nazi salute by accident Elon… And especially not with a face looking like he just bust a nut while doing it.
You’re not wrong, but this article is more about Netanyahu’s flexibility around ‘antisemitism.’
You know, how it’s now considered antisemitic to criticize Israel’s war crimes, but it’s totally not antisemitic to do a Nazi salute and joke about the holocaust as long as you support Israel’s war crimes?
Netanyahu is a bloodthirsty ultra-nationalist, but his even deeper self is just another shitty corrupt narcissist like Trump. He thinks he’s got everyone conned, and he’s grabbing everything he can while using the war as his claim to power. As soon as the crisis stops, people will start looking at how much he’s on the take again. So he’s always got to stir the shit and keep the populace in a state of panic.
Yeah, there is a pretty big difference between “they think we shouldn’t defend ourselves” and “they think we shouldn’t commit war crimes and genocide while defending ourselves”. They initially had a ton of support for defending themselves after october 7th… but they turned the tides against themselves by almost immediately going way too far. It has absolutely nothing to do with who either side is ethnically or religiously or whatever, it is entirely the war crimes and genocide we want to stop.
They’re not even defending themselves. They’re killing women, children and old people. They’re destroying water purification plants and hospitals. Genocide is not an act of self-defence, it’s a crime against humanity.
I think they think “Nazi” or “anti-semite” is just like “bitch”; it’s an insult largely divorced from its linguistic origins. So a person is a Nazi if you don’t like what they’re doing, and the word means nothing more.
Edit: I think people misunderstood and thought I said these guys aren’t Naizs. They are. They just don’t like when people call them that because they don’t know how words work.
No. Elon is evidently a Nazi as he constantly advocates for facism and sepecifically uses the symbols and language of the historocal German Nazis.
I know. But he doesn’t use the term as if it describes an actual thing. He uses it to insult people he doesn’t like. He’s more than happy to BE a Nazi, but not be CALLED a Nazi.
he wants to act like a Nazi, spread Nazi ideas, help implement Nazi policies, and have Nazi friends, but not being called a Nazi
a face looking like he just bust a nut
He was making the Mussolini face.
I am from Rome and I support this message. Typical Piazza Venezia balcony face, which is also where M would occasionally fuck women offering themselves in admiration.
I had a discussion on an industry Slack yesterday with a guy because I called Elon a nazi.
The guy brought immediately the discussion in DM and there I noticed he was wearing a kippa in his profile picture so I asked where was he from…
And he snapped and started to call me a jew hater and telling me that I wanted to bring him to the gas chambers and all the usual bullying.
Turns out the term they are using to make this connection is called Holocaust Trivialization.
I screenshot the whole discussion, blocked him everywhere I could find him (as I am doing with all Israeli people and businesses to be fair) and kept going with my life while he was still spewing insults at me.
This guy is the frontman of the most important conference in my industry.
Keep ready.
wow and is he an Elon fan too? or is he just one of those people who call everyone anti-semitist even those speaking against literal Nazi sympathisers lol
taking notes ah so nothing says anti-Nazi more than autoblocking Jews, interesting
Zionism is the fascist movement within Judaism (although many Jews reject it being associated with Judaism at all). Being against Zionism is no more anti-Jewish than being against white supremacism is being “anti-white”. That’s how that actually works. Jumping to accuse anyone criticizing Zionism as being “antisemitic” is just a lazy, intellectually dishonest smear that everyone sees through, and you should stop polluting conversations with it.
Autoblocking israelis and autoblocking jews aren’t necessarily the same thing. Zionists are essentially nazis. Hell, zionists collaborated with the actual 20th century nazis too. Lots of jews died because of it.
And they ask themselves later golly gee, why did we lose the election
THEY DON’T SEE IT
He’s pretty clearly intentionally taunting everyone who opposes him, just demonstrating what he can get away with. That’s what all of this has been about. He might not be anti-Semitic (please don’t at me – he likely is – I said might) and rather is just a pure troll dickhead.
Just like with some of the 4chan idiots though, there is little functional difference between being a true believer nazi and merely pretending to be one.
Exactly.
“Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they’re in good company.” - Jason Garrett-Glaser
And personally, I believe that any community that pretends to be idiots, are.
You may be right, there. I do tend to excuse comedians, like Monty Python and their ilk, though. I guess it’s always contextual.
Yeah, also satire. Look at Colbert’s schtick, that entire thing was pretending to be dumb, but it was peak satire.
It’s tough. Colbert is actually a great example in this case, because, while I also loved his schtick, a lot of conservatives didn’t realize it was satire. There was actually a study done about it, in fact!
Yeah I’m not saying it would make him better. Only saying his main intent seems to be to rile people up.
I agree, but also we can never know what’s in a person’s heart. It seems more useful to consider his actions; if it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck…
Tbh, he’s a massive douchebag on a power trip. It wouldn’t shock me at all if he wasn’t anti-Semitic and is just trying to push people’s buttons. At the same time, if this is true, he’s also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.
That said, there’s a good chance he’s also just an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi piece of shit…and still doing the latter part of that.
Regardless, he’s a fascist either way, so fuck him.
he’s also shifting the Overton window and showing what true Nazis can safely get away with in the public eye.
This is the major fucking problem. The fat orange diaper sponge already fucked up the “what’s acceptable in public” perception 8 years ago - and now we have the Apartheid-dipshit one-upping his rimjob buddy.
well in that sense (and in many others) he is literally like a five year old, testing his boundaries
The tweet for those curious
Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler! Bet you did nazi that coming,”
As usual, he’s not even funny.
Dollars to donuts he generated that entire tweet with AI.
AI would have used the correct german ö
I feel like AI would make something more coherent than that.
These headlines are getting way out of hand.
If this goes on the ADL will be denying the holocaust be the end of the week.
“The real anti-semitism was when the allies attacked the camps on D-Day, the jews were just roasting s’mores we swear!” - The ADL
The ADL has never not been a horrifically shitty organization and has probably done more damage to Jewish culture than any other group in the last 50 years. They’re effectively a bunch of quisling fucks.
Nazis siding with Israel against Jews is no great surprise at this point.
The KKK supported black separatists in the US in their goal of creating an independent state in Africa. It’s almost like you can hate a group of people AND support their right to live on the other side of the world from you.
I think benji sees the utility there, and is also a fascist
Yup. Here’s a clip of the founder of the American Nazi party donating to Malcom X and the Nation of Islam.
The enemy of my enemy is an enema
Authoritarian regimes stick together…at first.
Being a great friend of netanyahu is yet more evidence that you are a fascist
He’s literally bragging about how he will never be questioned
This is in no way a defense of Elon. He is a horrible Nazi and he hates Jews and I’m a Jew.
That said, I’m not seeing where he brought up the Holocaust. He made a bunch of very offensive puns regarding Nazi leadership, but unless I missed it, nothing about the Holocaust. All the critical responses seem to mention it so maybe I’m missing it?
I guess I feel like “makes Holocaust jokes” is just unnecessary hyperbole when what he said was awful enough.
Himmler was a German Nazi leader and the chief architect of the Holocaust
– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler!
– Elmu
I think it’s probably fair to call punning on the name “Himmler” to be a “Holocaust joke”, but I can also understand if someone doesn’t think it is.
I guess. It feels like a bit of a stretch to me. If they said “Nazi Jokes” instead of “Holocaust Jokes,” it’s not like that’s still not terrible.
You can’t really separate the Holocaust from the Nazis.
