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    Honestly it’s so annoying we just can’t natively crossposting from mastodon and we have to keep using screenshots.

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          And even if they did, you can’t reply from Lemmy. You can’t even load the post from Lemmy. You’d need to use something that actually interface with Mastodon posts.

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            Would be cool if fediverse instances auto created a “Fediverse” topic/thread/etc that was only dedicated to federating ActivityPub things from other services.

            Like I’d love to go to c/Fediverse or even something like c/Mastodon and c/Loops and whatnot to get some more content from within Lemmy

            Edit: maybe f/Mastodon or ap/Mastodon for “Fediverse/ActivityPub” to differentiate them from the user made communities?

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              Hard coding other website engine names into the structure of your own website engine seems… not great.

              Lemmy doesn’t show posts from Mastodon for the exact same reason it doesn’t show posts from Loops. Or PixelFed. Or Miskey. Or Bookwyrm. Or other Lemmy users.

              A “Mastodon” feed would encompass all of those things. And it would promote the idea that all that exists outside of Lemmy are the most popular wish.com versions of existing mainstream services. It neither leaves room for acknowledging less popular options, nor anything that’s genuinely new.

              Plus, there are already website engines that let you follow both groups and users. If that’s something you want, mbin is right there. Why not use that?

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      Would be cool if there was a way to basically display a toot with mastadon-like formatting simply by linking it in Lemmy. Since it’s all in the Fediverse it could even display the live number of likes, boosts, etc. and provide an easy link to the toot author’s profile

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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        You have my support. I don’t do twitter-like feeds (never got the appeal), but absolutely love the content on Mastodon. Having that content on my Lemmy feed would be golden.

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    I am moderately surprised that this didn’t have anything to do with Trump or Elon Musk. I was pretty curious what activist organization Erik Uden ran. But, the punchline wasn’t that, and was in the Mastodon replies.

    Interestingly, two days before Oracle deleted my account and all servers associated with it, I publicly criticized Oracle’s CEO in a viral post for promising dystopian AI surveillance technology to his investors.

    https://mastodon.de/@ErikUden/113879369270806353

    What a weird coincidence

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      I think the Oracle CEO was the original CEO asshole before the current batch became the new big thing. No that it means that he’s actually deleting accounts left and right, but he’s been a dick before it was cool.

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          I haven’t done any extensive looking at his situation specifically, but your link is more confusing than clarifying. He originally said his access was revoked and all his data deleted, but in your linked post it says his access to was revoked, but his server is still running. Is he saying that his VM still exists, the OS still running, but someone logged into the OS and specifically deleted all of his data leaving the server intact? That doesn’t sound likely, so I don’t understand what his situation is.

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            Yeah that didn’t make sense to me either. Sounds to me like just because the billing is still running he concludes the server still runs as well.

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      Sounds about right for Oracle. I worked for a company that got bought by Oracle, and the support ticketing system we used was owned by Salesforce. Now, Larry Ellison hates Salesforce. So everyone was told to eliminate use of all Salesforce software.

      Only problem was the Oracle software they wanted me to switch to - Service Center - was terrible. It was designed for massive call centers, not my team of five. It had almost zero automation, and the UX was circa 1985.

      So I had a meeting with the Service Center team to go over my concerns. One feature I needed was an autocomplete field for ticket macros. This let us quickly process messages in our workflow. And it was just an autocomplete field, something I’d built myself dozens of times.

      The Service Center folks acted like they’d never seen anything like that. They said it would take a year to add that feature to their product, but management still said I had to switch. So my boss, who had my back, got it thrown up the chain of command at Oracle. And then again. And again.

      After a year and a half of this, averaging about a meeting a quarter, I finally got on the phone with an EVP who asked a very good question: “How much is this costing us per year?”

      “$5,000” I said

      “Why are you wasting my time with this?” she said

      “Good question” I said.

      I ended up getting to keep my ticketing software. I don’t know if Service Center has autocomplete fields yet.

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      What a weird coincidence

      Those coincidences are going to keep happening unless you start Mario Brothering CEOs

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      Amazing. Those companies have been widely renowned for their amazing customer service, too.

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    I’m not a fan of victim blaming but who the heck thought it was a good idea to use Oracle to begin with??!??

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      I use oracle always free server. It’s actually some generous resources… but yeah, It’s oracle. I intentionally have a backup script run regularly for precisely this case. It’s saved me $1200 in costs* so far so I’ll keep freeloading until they screw me over

      *based on what i was paying previously at another cloud service

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    This is exactly why you don’t use anything from Oracle, especially free stuff like OCP. If you think you’re not going to regret it eventually, you’re fucking wrong.

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    Not just oracle. Couple years ago Google nuked an Australian pension fund cloud environment with no way to restore. Just poof all data gone.

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    My much brainier than me friend was telling me about the courses he was taking to apply to Oracle. I had to break it to him how far down they’ve fallen, and not to expect anything working for them. He’s smart, but not in the right social channels like the Fediverse to see what the real people are saying.

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      All of the tech people everywhere know about Oracle. You’d have to be actively avoiding the info, or be coming in from a completely different subculture at this point.

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        He’s been so deeply invested in code itself and cloistered in Udemy courses. Trust me, I know how it sounds.

        He really doesn’t communicate with others in the business, which right now I think is his downfall. No connections.

        He’s the “no distractions and dive into paid resources” type of learner and I’m the “scour the web and find news and free resources” type of learner, but I’m easily distracted.

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    It’s the problem with their “always free” virtual machines. Use too much, and they delete it for abuse. Use just a little, and they delete it for inactivity.

    Those aren’t free because Oracle is benevolent, but simply because probably they had a contract with Ampere to purchase millions of those arm server CPUs and they have vacancy

    They’re “free” in the hope that they will catch a whale: someone gets used to their infrastructure with a test, then spin more paid virtual machines

    If in a specific datacenter, suddenly a whale is asking more resources, the free ones are getting the cut

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    As someone who had that misfortune to work woth their products, this tracks just great. Honestly. I’ve used their Apex and SQL developer. Both of them are unintuitive to use, inconsistent, lacking features, and just a complete resource hogs in their own ways. Makes me wonder how they are still keeping themselves afloat, considering the abhorrent state and quality their products are.

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      Oh god, Apex. I was trying to enjoy my morning. Unintuitive isn’t even the right way to describe it. It has to be the most complicated way to build an application and that’s just sticking with the templates. Even knowing what I would need to change would require guess work and 5 minutes of hunting to find the action that may not even work

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        I sincerely despise how it hides the primary keys of a table when creating a interactive grid with a form subpage for entering new data, I have to unhide the primary key twice, on two different places. I know it does that for the master details as well, and I think it does the same for reports as well. Like, come on! It’s so infuriating how much time i have to waste just changing the primary key to be visible. Won’t even gonna mention how much it’s necessary to scroll to change a field to a dropdown list. The RESTful services are at least somewhat straightforward. Really like when it gives me “Under unscheduled maintenance” and then I gotta figure if it’s my SQL or they being down for real… Also for some reason, all of Oracle’s pages just take foooreever to load on my network. It’s not my router, it’s not my connection, since all other websites just load fine…

        In both cases, I was using Oracle products for seminar projects. Specifically for Apex, I had to make a simple database with 15 tables, and visualise all of them in the Apex as a page. I am empathetic to anyone who has to use either in a production environment on a real project…

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          I thought you could just go to the UI settings within the SQL Workshop and unmark the APK as Hidden for that

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            I don’t seem to be able to locate that option in the SQL Workshop… If true that’d saved me so much time, since that wasn’t shown to me during the course. Thanks anyway, though! 👍

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      Makes me wonder how they are still keeping themselves afloat, considering the abhorrent state and quality their products are.

      Their main business model is patent/trademark infringement lawsuits.

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      We used JCaps for hospital interfaces… when the time came to renew licenses, they literally ghosted us until we just moved to a different engine

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    Historically, the only thing Oracle ever made which was good was their database, and even that is only worth it beyond a certain size of dataset and number of simultaneous requests being served.

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      Nice try, larry. While their database is completely decent, you cannot use it beyond certain size/performance requirements because that would require buying yet another yacht for the fucker.

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      They didn’t make Mysql if that’s what you’re referring to and Oracle DB was nothing revolutionary.

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        I think your most demanding use of databases was in tiny environments with tiny datasets and relaxed performance metrics compared to my own experience in designing systems that include databases.

        MySQL and Oracle DB are totally different beasts for totally different needs, even if they’re both relational databases.

        Further, the Oracle DB predates MySQL.

        MySQL was created exactly because at the time there were either these massive Enterprise Class behemoth expensive databases such as Oracle DB and IBM’s Db2 or stuff like Access and hacked Excel sheets being used as “databases”, so there really wasn’t a proper database for things like inventory systems for small and mid-sized companies - they either used Access which was a joke (didn’t even had Transactions, so prone to get corrupted) or they paid a lot for licenses for the big databases which also required expensive machines to run them on.

        One could say that MySQL made a lot of the modern Internet possible because it was Open Source and ran on Linux so you could for free make a dynamic website (say, a small online store) on top of a stack with it at the bottom (and Apache at the top and some custom middle layer in something things like PHP - remember that these were the 90s and Python only became popular later) on a pretty basic Linux server somewhere and that was enough until you got really big. You could do it with Oracle DB at the bottom also, but it was expensive and not really worth it unless you were serving tens or hundred of thousands or requests per minute.

        That said, I agree that Oracle DB wasn’t revolutionary, it just worked well with all kinds of loads, even extreme ones, as long as you knew what you were doing.

        The point I was making was that the Oracle DB was the only decent product Oracle ever created, not that it was revolutionary.

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          A couple other entertaining Access facts: 1) Access databases did at least have an audit table - which was manually editable; 2) Access databases were used by the Diebold electronic voting machines that were in use in numerous states during the 2000 presidential election cycle. It’s possible that 1 and 2 are unrelated.

          On a more amusing note, I remember making fun of Access on StackOverflow around 2008 or so and running afoul of a dude who was still making a living doing Access work. I’ve never been more fearful that a person online was going to track me down IRL and attempt to kill me.