• Teknikal@eviltoast.org
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        17 days ago

        You have a point it’s a monopoly but most YouTube videos I watch now the creators are always suggesting viewing on patreon because of all the YouTube copyright stuff.

        I’ve noticed quite a few have vanished from YouTube so maybe there’s some signs YouTube is starting to get to annoying for creators.

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          17 days ago

          I’ve never used Patreon, but are the videos not hosted there from YouTube?

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            17 days ago

            I think they can pretty much post whatever they want but I’ve never used it myself as it’s all pay walled. But yeah I think reactors are all jumping over to it as it gets harder to post anything on YouTube without someone else trying to claim the ad money.

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        18 days ago

        Literally any other form of entertainment.

        Though the statement was to stop using it, not replace it.

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          17 days ago

          Youtube is not just entertainment tho - the catch is that Google has way too much actually useful info hostage, like lectures, guides or documentaries.

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              17 days ago

              True. But I am not even talking about dedicated content creators (for whom it is indeed an option!). I am talking about, say, an old laptop disassembly guide that a random master uploaded and just forgot about it. People not actively managing their content are not going to bother.

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            17 days ago

            It’s somewhat of a catch, that’s generally how monopolistic moats work but you really shouldn’t be relying on google as a backup service for obscure videos you wish to keep.

            I’ve no idea of the amount of lectures, guides, documentaries and other non-entertainment media that is available exclusively on youtube, but again it isn’t an archiving service.

            They can, will and have deleted whole channels for various reasons, most of which were bullshit, if you find something you absolutely have to keep, download it.

            That being said, the process of downloading, archiving and curating content on anything more than a trivial scale can be much more involved than it seems, especially if you want backups/redundancy.

            I’ve never been a big youtube user so my opinion on this is coloured by the fact that i don’t have that much invested in the platform.

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              17 days ago

              I am now downloading everything I personally need or like. Wish there was, say, a torrent index of Youtube videos)

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                17 days ago

                Not sure how versed/willing you are to selfhost but I’ve heard good things about tube archivist.

                There are also a bunch of ui’s for yt-dlp, though i can’t vouch for quality.

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        18 days ago

        Freetube, and what I use, Newpipe. There are better experiences out there. All one needs to do is search for them. Happy hunting.

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            17 days ago

            Eh, I would argue you’re only using the servers to access the content creators data. Youtube is the interface, algorithm, advertisement, comments, etc. If it’s just the creators data being accessed with no additional contribution from youtube then I would just treat it as any ol’ host server.

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        18 days ago

        I use an alternative frontend for actually watching stuff, just google and find one with a public instance, no ads, can do pip on your phone for free

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        18 days ago

        For watching YT videos: NewPipe or Tubular for phone app. FreeTube on Pc. Invidious in browser.

        Just a few examples, there is loads more alternatives.

        Including different platforms all together. Too much to choose from.

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      18 days ago

      When I watch YouTube on the Roku in my bedroom I see ads and it’s terrible. If I see a 30 second ad I go back and hit play again, usually I have to do that two or three times and then I get a 5-second skippable ad. Even then I’m often only two or three minutes into the video before it plays another ad.

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      18 days ago

      I have to see them at school all the time, because our teacher’s teachers don’t bother installing adblockers.

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          Teacher here. My school uses everything Chrome OS and locks the ability to install extensions or other browsers. It’s not always us.

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              At least German is consistent, unlike English where every so-called “rule” nearly has more exceptions than places it applies. As a native speaker I’m always amazed that anyone manages to learn our train wreck of a language.

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                Dutch is way worse than English regarding inconsistencies it’s not even funny.

                Sadly Dutch is adapting to make some thing “proper” Dutch which where never proper Dutch and sound wrong to every native Dutch speaker. Like “groter als jij” instead of “groter dan jij”.

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                  I’m not sure what you mean here. As far as spelling goes, Dutch is far more consistent than English.

                  You’re mentioning some none-standard Dutch which is often perceived as incorrect (and it is indeed according to the rules of the standard language norm). Yet, if you were correct in your claim that ‘groter als jij’ was ‘never proper Dutch and sound[s] wrong to every native Dutch speaker’, no native Dutch speaker would ever use ‘groter als jij’. Native Dutch speakers do this often, though, and have been doing it at least since the seventeenth century (eg. this quote from 1670: ‘Zy [de vrucht ”Peci”] is niet veel groter als een kastanie …, vol sap en aengenaem van smaek: herder dan een gemeine appel, en een weinig zuurachtig,’ - ‘It [the fruit “Peci”] is not much bigger than a chestnut …, full of juice and pleasantly tasting: harder than a common apple, and a bit sourish,’).

                  Sorry to have gone so off-topic here, though.

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                English has its pitfalls, but is in many ways incredibly simple.

                Plus it’s everywhere, and the best way to learn a language is to use it.

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            18 days ago

            EDIT: Woops, got confused myself

            The plural -s in Dutch only gets an apostrophe if the stem word ends on an open vowel. So it’s cavia-cavia’s on the one hand, but kikker-kikkers on the other (and la[de]-lades). So even in Dutch this’d be incorrect ;)

    • rockter@sh.itjust.works
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      18 days ago

      It really is a pro tip, when installing more than one ad blocker is just gonna make for a worse experience, never mind the fact that it’s going to make the ad blcokers themselves actually not work the way they’re supposed to.

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    18 days ago

    EDIT: Not reading any of the replies, so enjoy your circle jerk.

    Use the Brave browser and you won’t get any ads. Glorious.

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      18 days ago

      EDIT: Not reading any of the replies, so enjoy your circle jerk.

      That’s what I do as well when mozillatards begin questioning my browser choice, thinking they’re much better person than I am. Hope they enjoy their dying browser.

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      18 days ago

      Then you only have to endure the ignominy of using a browser from a homophobic anti-vaxxer

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        18 days ago

        A bad person can create a good product. It’s that simple.

        Also, I love that you’re self-righteously typing this out on a computer produced by slave labor, likely involving kids.

        You’re better than me for sure.

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          There’s no slave labor (nor children) involved in producing an iPhone. Unless you completely twist the meaning of the word “slave“ to mean something completely different than what it really means. Of course, unless you have proof that child slaves built my iPhone. I’m pretty sure you don’t.

          As for criticizing self-righteousness, what the hell do you call your entire comment but self-righteous whataboutim?

          A bad person can create a good product. It’s that simple.

          It’s really not, though. Using their “good product“ ends up supporting the bad person. Most people aren’t OK with that.

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            18 days ago

            Not OP, but your smart phone may not have been assembled with child labor, but some of the components/minerals used in its construction have been tied to child labor in the past.

            Most people aren’t OK with that.

            What evidence can you provide to support this, or is this simply your opinion?

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              18 days ago

              What evidence can you provide to support this, or is this simply your opinion?

              You first

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                18 days ago

                Yeah that’s not how this works.

                It’s really not, though. Using their “good product“ ends up supporting the bad person. Most people aren’t OK with that.

                You made a statement, not I. Either you have evidence that most aren’t OK with that, or you don’t.

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                  Do you have amnesia? Because you definitely made a claim without providing evidence.

                  Not OP, but your smart phone may not have been assembled with child labor, but some of the components/minerals used in its construction have been tied to child labor in the past.

                  So go on then. Provide that evidence.

                  Of course, we’re not discussing iPhones of the past. The matter under discussion is specifically the phone I have now. Nice try with that strawman.

                  So go on. Provide evidence for your claim. And try to do it without any more logical fallacies. Other than the whataboutism that you wrote in here on, by the way.

                  Edit: trolls get blocked. I’m sure you’ll find some way to blame me for that too.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          18 days ago

          I don’t even think he’s that bad. The worst thing he did was create JavaScript, which is largely fixed now, and the second worst is donate to an anti-LGBT group with his own money. As CEO of Mozilla, he led a very diverse group, diverse enough to kick him out once they found out about his donation.

          I personally wish he was back at Mozilla instead of the nonsense leaders they’ve had since he left. I certainly don’t agree with his political views, but he built a great organization and I think Mozilla would be in a better place with him at the helm.

          I don’t use Brave as my main browser because I think Firefox is still worth supporting as an independent browser engine, but Brave is my backup if I need a chromium browser.

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          18 days ago

          It’s far more bearable without ads. Which can be blocked with most ad blockers in pretty much any other browser.

          • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.works
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            18 days ago

            I keep brave around pretty much just for this, because it’s the easiest and most effective way on MacOS and iOS. And yet they still seem to be getting through sometimes lately.

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              18 days ago

              The easiest and most effective way on macOS and iOS is to use the AdGuard extension for Safari. Or the U block origin extension in Firefox.

              Neither come with the shame of using a browser developed by a homophobic anti-vaxxer.

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                  18 days ago

                  They worked fine for me, but I don’t have all of those other extensions. AdGuard blocks all the ads on my device, including ads in YouTube videos.

                  Perhaps you should tweak your settings?

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      Yup, it’s my backup if I need a chromium browser for something. I just don’t engage with the BAT nonsense and it’s about as good as a chromium browser can get IMO.

      Firefox w/ uBlock Origin is my main though, mostly because I want to support independent browser engines.

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    18 days ago

    Still need a good strategy for blocking ads on my TV. Mostly watching YouTube through a Chromecast so I can control it from my phone

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    18 days ago

    On desktop: uBlock origin (Vivaldi or Firefox). On mobile: Newpipe and AdAway (VPN mode, or rooted phone).

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      18 days ago

      Reminder that Firefox on mobile also has ublock origin and other add ons that improve the experience.

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        This is the way. Just make sure to disable the YouTube app on your phone so links people send you don’t open in the app.

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          It does not. If you don’t want to sideload, consider AdGuard and/or Vinegar. Only works with Safari, though.

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          Look into Sideloadly and uYouPlus by qnblackcat . I’ve been using it for years now, and while a hassle to sign the apps every week, it’s the best we have unfortunately.

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        Safari in itself also blocks a lot of ads, but if that is not enough IOS users can also install Firefox. There is no reason to watch ads anymore

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    And since they made so much while people are effectively using adblocker, there’s no need to fight them back, right?

    Right?

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      17 days ago

      It’s not about making money, it’s about making all the money. Stock holders will pressure to fire the guy that does that.

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        It’s not about making money, it’s about making all the money.

        It’s probably also about sending a message.