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I asked Google and told me that’s like one mile distance.
This fucker is serious that he has no other way of traveling that then by car?
I bet taking the car actually takes longer if there’s any traffic at all.
Someone should tell these people about gasoline (or electricity) if they think “having to pay to use your car” is an insane notion.
Car owner.
Driving in Manhattan is for truck deliveries and taxis only.
If you try to drive a car from point to point in Manhattan, you’re an asshole.
25 years ago, I felt safer riding a bicycle in Manhattan than I did in Boston…
That goes for every densely populated city. In Europe we have similar problems and still there are those SUV Assholes driving their cars in areas even delivery vehicles fear to enter. (Imagine Roads made for horse carriages… they are now one way and barely fit those dick extensions)
Public transportation in the USA sucks shit and it should be improved before unleashing a congestion toll.
Mass transit in Manhattan, and NYC as a whole, is actually a very good system, that just needs upgrades.
It’s a good system in terms of “if you look at the map and see all the places it goes”. You ever use it daily though?
I used it for two weeks daily while there on a work trip. Worked fine, far better than my hometown, which still has a pretty decent system. I’d say its about on par with what you see in Paris.
My brother lived way out in Brooklyn and commuted to Manhattan for decades. Never had a car the entire time. Apparently New York’s public transportation isn’t a big issue.
Don’t put the cart before the horse. The Wikipedia article says that “The Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) estimates $15 billion in available capital will be generated by bonding revenues from the tolls, which will be available to fund repairs and improvements to the subway, bus, and commuter rail systems.”
How are you this way?
I take it you’ve never heard of new york, then?
NYC has one of the biggest public transportation systems ever built
Yeah that’s a good point. Also, the congestion pricing could fund improvement to public transport And motivate a change in perspective for the residents.
Wendover productions did an interesting video on this recently.
What I’ve read says that you aren’t charged unless you cross the boundary. If you reside inside the zone and never leave and enter again, you won’t be charged a toll.
Even better, he’s north of the boundary. It ends at 60th st.
Congestion fees are a very capitalist way of solving it. This law basically exists for everyone except rich people (i,e. Those who can afford to pay fees).
All this is based on a false assumption that money has an objective value. But in reality, 1$ means different things for different classes.
According to Wikipedia “Low-income residents receive a 50 percent discount on daytime tolls after their first ten trips into the congestion zone in a calendar month”. So to some extent the system does take your concern into account.
Well it pretends to but no system like that will equalise it.
Do the same as we do with fines, based on income.
So that the congestion charge for a billionaire is also actually significant. Enough for then to reconsider using a car.
Billionaires using cars aren’t the ones causing congestion though, there just aren’t enough of them
Yes but the money goes 100% to public transit so it benefits the lower income public transport commuters too.
Directly to which parts of public transport specifically? Are cops a part of that?
Since when cops are public transport?
Since… I dunno but it seems all transit systems have dedicated cops in the US.
Ah, you’re new! Hello! Ga ga goo goo! Goo Goo ga ga!
There are transit cops, cops who are on the payroll of a transit system. There are also politicians who lie about where money goes, so they say “we’re investing 100% in MTA to make the system safer for you and your family” and they mean they are giving money to NYPD with some requirement they have 1 more cop at a transit terminal. As another fine example, check out states where lottery funds go to “public schools”.
I don’t understand the need to belittle anyone that lacks information or is ignorant. Were you born with all the information you have right now?
No, in fact I quite literally in my message acknowledged they were new and didn’t have that information. Like, the thing you’re asking is actually in my message. Sure, there’s also some belittling for flavor, but life is boring if you don’t insult people on the internet.
Sounds like you just lead a boring life if you rely on insulting strangers on the Internet for some spice.
I mean, you are right and the fee should be proportional to wealth, but it is not gonna affect the poor people because they use the public transit. Maybe anywhere else in the US may be true that “even the homeless need/have a car” but NYC would be the exception.
Love how this is in the one US city where you need a car the least as far as I know. You’ve got the subway, the sidewalks, cabs… I mean sure, the latter exists in the form of ride sharing apps basically everywhere now, but NYC had cabs even in old movies. Though I suspect most other cities of any real size had them as well
I had a girlfriend from Phoenix who was surprised you could hail a cab on the street in Boston, she thought that only happened in NYC…
There are buses too. Last time I visited NYC I used buses all the time. They were clean, frequent, cheap, and I had great conversations with other passengers. 10/10.
I dunno about NYC but Chicago has a pretty large and diverse public transit system.
That said the first bus I got onto in Chicago clearly hit a parked car that was too far over the line and the driver just sorta shrugged and kept on truckin’.
That’s why you dont park over the line. Seems fine to me.
Agreed, just thought it hilarious
The cabs actually get a surcharge for the congestion pricing but who cares.
Awww he might have to go on the big scary subway and desk with the poors… A sad day indeed
He could save his $2.75 and avoid it by… walking.
That guy looks like an uncle who can barely walk from the end of a parking lot to the store, let alone 18 blocks
His kids live on 79th street and he will have to pay congestion price every time he goes to see them.
So like, what, Christmas and their birthdays?
That was my first thought as well. Why doesn’t his kids want to live with him?
Not having primary custody can be due to lots of things, I won’t judge anyone male or female for it unless there’s abuse involved.
Also maybe theyre adults?
Just take the 6 like 2 stops you absolute donkey
Dude is complaining because even though he just lives out side of the zone he still has to pay the fee even when he travels north to 79th which is also outside zone. That area is all one way streets and if he wants to go north he has to travel south first into to zone and then he can turn around and drive to 79th. Though I have zero sympathy if you can afford to live right next to Central Park you can afford to pay the fee hunderds of times per week.
Yeah he could also walk like 1 block east and then he can go on madison.
Property shark CEO inconvencied. Sad trombone.
I looked on the map. That overlooks Central Park.
If your home overlooks Central Park, I’m pretty sure you can afford a congestion charge.
You don’t get rich enough to afford such a location by paying fees that benefit others.
Some of the most frugal, penny pitching people I know are also some of the wealthiest people I know.
Then he can walk.
A good reason to feel sorry for his kids.
Yep. I work in tech and there’s a guy who cannot stop bragging about his millionaire status and is so ridiculously cheap.
You know he’s got exactly $1,000,001 too.
I was wondering if there was more to the story. Like, maybe he has a disability and NYC doesn’t have an exemption for disabilities. They do, however, have an exemption for disabilities as well as a reduced rate for low income residents. To me it sounds like this guy is just lazy.
Looking at this on Google Maps, he can get anywhere on 76th St using one bus or subway ride and a 5-10 minute walk.
Zero sympathy.
Wow, I can’t believe you’d suggest subjecting this poor man to something as horrible as being forced to use a public bus.
A bus? With all the other peasants?
Sometimes when I ride the bus I’m uncomfortable with how my country fails the least fortunate
A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transportation. (mayor of Bogotá, Enrique Peñalosa)
“Ahh, the old number 22. Clean, reliable public transportation. The chariot of the people. The ride of choice for the poor and very poor alike!”
I found Area 51!!
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Bedbug bus? :p
